rec'd from a friend in Nevada, any lawyers here?
From: Robert Gimple
Date: 02/07/04 21:45:26
To: PatriciaSaye
Subject: You Wanted This RE: C.C.W.
Here is the scenario we talked about that you wanted to forward to your friend for his input. I would greatly appreciate you forwarding his reply to me. Remember, this is not to debate the gov illegally turning a right into a privilege. It is to obtain credible opinion of my hypothetical defense.
Scenario:
A person obtains a C.C.W. Permit/C.H.L pursuant to their applicable state statutes.
While carrying concealed in a state that does not permit concealed carry or share reciprocity with the issuing state, the person has contact with law enforcement due to a minor infraction, such as inoperable tail lamp or jaywalking.
During the contact the weapon is disclosed/discovered* and the person is subsequently
arrested upon a charge of unlawful c.c.w.(however phrased).
I believe that Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution (Full Faith Clause) should be a
valid defense in this scenario. After all, the arresting state must honor the identification, driver's license, vehicle registration, etc. of the issuing state. Should not they also have to honor the C.C.W. Permit/C.H.L. for the same reason?
* for disclosed/discovered please construe in the following manner:
In a state prohibiting concealed carry, the person follows the issuing state statute with
regard to notification of L.E.O. if carrying.
In a state permitting concealed carry, the person follows that state statute.
If notification is not required, please assume the L.E.O. asked about weapons and the
person was honest in the answer.
I would appreciate any insight or opinion your friend can provide, especially if he is aware of this defense being attempted before. I've been unable to find any case law of a similar nature, 'course I'm not the greatest researcher either.
From: Robert Gimple
Date: 02/07/04 21:45:26
To: PatriciaSaye
Subject: You Wanted This RE: C.C.W.
Here is the scenario we talked about that you wanted to forward to your friend for his input. I would greatly appreciate you forwarding his reply to me. Remember, this is not to debate the gov illegally turning a right into a privilege. It is to obtain credible opinion of my hypothetical defense.
Scenario:
A person obtains a C.C.W. Permit/C.H.L pursuant to their applicable state statutes.
While carrying concealed in a state that does not permit concealed carry or share reciprocity with the issuing state, the person has contact with law enforcement due to a minor infraction, such as inoperable tail lamp or jaywalking.
During the contact the weapon is disclosed/discovered* and the person is subsequently
arrested upon a charge of unlawful c.c.w.(however phrased).
I believe that Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution (Full Faith Clause) should be a
valid defense in this scenario. After all, the arresting state must honor the identification, driver's license, vehicle registration, etc. of the issuing state. Should not they also have to honor the C.C.W. Permit/C.H.L. for the same reason?
* for disclosed/discovered please construe in the following manner:
In a state prohibiting concealed carry, the person follows the issuing state statute with
regard to notification of L.E.O. if carrying.
In a state permitting concealed carry, the person follows that state statute.
If notification is not required, please assume the L.E.O. asked about weapons and the
person was honest in the answer.
I would appreciate any insight or opinion your friend can provide, especially if he is aware of this defense being attempted before. I've been unable to find any case law of a similar nature, 'course I'm not the greatest researcher either.