Legal to shoot wild monkeys in Florida?

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^^ That link only shows the FWC site with "no match found."

I was not aware of this. Florida's climate is prime for monkey propagation and, if they proliferate the way pythons, agamas, and iguanas have, well, there's gonna be some tough roads ahead for native species...
 
Though there are many non-native species in Florida, and some even exhibit "nuisance behavior" as defined by law, only a few are actually addressed by policy regarding trapping or taking. At this time, it appears monkeys are not on that list, and there doesn't seem to be any established provision or guidelines for handling animals not on that list, not that I can find, at least.
 
While I have seen and heard a lot about wild monkeys here in Florida I haven't heard anything about measures to control them.
 
There are two strategies with moneys. If taking them stationary, it seems like we finally found something the AR-15 is good for, other than poodles.

But, the truly sporting way to go after them is on the fly. The 16ga 1oz of No. 2 to No. 4 shot is just about ideal for mid-sized species.
 
What is the best caliber for monkeys?
The biggest ones in Florida, as far as I know, are the Rhesus Macaques and they're at most 15-20 lbs. I would think just about anything would work. In most places where they're native the most common guns to use on them are either a .22 LR or shotgun of any gauge. Given that a lot of shots would be into the trees a center fire might not be the safest thing to use.
 
"...best caliber for monkeys?..." One of those Pythons. snicker.
Florida's hunting regs talk about non-native introduced species, 3 types of monkey included. Requires a permit to remove a python. No mention of monkies though. Apparently, there's a permit required for catching 'em. Some guy from SC has been catching 'em and selling 'em with a $150 permit. The Fish and Game people say they're not protected though. It's also possible to contract herpes among other diseases from 'em by touch/contact or a bite too.
 
Shame there aren't coconut palms in Florida, or you could trap them like the Filipinos do. Wire a coconut to a tree. Make a small hole in the side, just big enough for a monkey's paw. The monkey reaches in and grabs a handful of the coconut meat. Oops! He can't pull his hand back out! And the monkeys are too greedy to turn loose, even when the trapper shows up. :)

Worse than politicians or trophy wives. :D
 
How would you be preparing the meat?
This really puts me in the mind of a movie where the monkey is carrying a disease that will wipe out humanity.

I bet it would be fun to try and call them to a blind or dog hunt them with a 20ga #2 would be choice. If I could get them on the ground, a good high velocity rifle 22-250 or such .
 
MedWheeler wrote:
At this time, it appears monkeys are not on that list, and there doesn't seem to be any established provision or guidelines for handling animals not on that list,...

The link I provided includes a number to call for guidance and permit requirements on animals not listed.
 
ironworkerwill wrote:
This really puts me in the mind of a movie where the monkey is carrying a disease that will wipe out humanity.

Well, the movie was building from the belief that AIDS developed from a Simian Immune Deficiency virus and crossed species through monkey hunters. As we have all seen in recent decades, the immunodeficiency viruses are fragile, hard to spread and don't represent much of a threat to humanity as a whole.

Viral hemorrhagic fevers like Ebola and Marburg present genuine threats of a pandemic but whether its hosts are Simians or Chiroptera (i.e. bats) is still a matter of debate.
 
hdwhit, I wasn't specific enough. Wuz thinking about the area where the monkeys are reported to be.

We probably oughta shut up about the "what to do" stuff, since it's off-topic for this forum. Mea culpa. :)
 
For what it's worth, I' ve been living here in south Florida since I got out of the Army in 1971. The last 21 years as a fishing guide -mostly in Everglades National Park and we do have serious problems with non-native species (understatement) but no monkeys at all... Every now and then some writer in need of a topic will mention "escaped monkeys" but that's 99% imagination in my opinion...


Makes a good story line,though.
 
First I've heard of monkey problems in Florida. But, if you have such a problem, a good 12 ga with number 4 or 5 shot would be the safest since it won't go far beyond the target and has plenty of killing power within 30-40 yards. I have some #2 shot, but that's kinda hard to find. Of course any rifle will do. You could try a 17HMR in case you have longer shots like 100 yds.
 
Yes, they've been in the news lately. One spot is estimated to have a colony of about 200.
 
You dudes don't have a monkey problem. If you want to see a monkey problem, head down to South Africa.

We had a house in Amanzimtoti. The monkeys got the best of the mangoes, avocados and lychees out of our garden. They are very destructive, they will take a juicy mango and have one bite of it then throw it to the ground and pick another one. They crap in the pool and they take slate tiles off the roof and throw them down, sometimes onto the car.

Once, my mother made me a toasted cheese sandwich and set it down on a plate in the kitchen to cool. When I came to get that sandwich a few minutes later it was gone. I looked out the window and saw a large monkey sitting next to the swimming pool, cool as a cucumber enjoying that sandwich. I was annoyed!

Another time I was on holiday in Amanzimtoti and heard a ruckus in the kitchen. Came down there just in time to see several grey monkeys escaping out the window into the trees outside. They had been eating the sugar and trying to get at the eggs:

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Here's one of them with his loot of white sugar sachets high up in a tree outside:

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In Natal they have an organised cull of these monkeys. They do it during school hours so the local kids don't get upset.

Some of those monkeys are large and aggressive. Their canines can be almost an inch long, you don't want to be bitten by them. The ones in Amanzimtoti know about guns. They'll happily ignore you shouting at them or throwing stones, but if you pick up a broom and point it at them they run away fast!
 
[In Natal they have an organised cull of these monkeys. They do it during school hours so the local kids don't get upset...

The ones in Amanzimtoti know about guns. They'll happily ignore you shouting at them or throwing stones, but if you pick up a broom and point it at them they run away fast!

I think this is a ideal type of hunting/culling for use of a suppressor/silencer and use of cover or blind with subsonic ammunition such as the .300 BO. With the intelligence of monkeys they are going to scatter at the sound of the first shot and as commented above figure out real quick what is happening.

A suppresser should give the hunter the opportunity for before they figure out something bad is happening and they should leave. Changing location and type of cover everyday should help to keep them confused where the hunter is.

In addition a suppressor keeps the neighbors and children from getting upset about you killing those sweet, cute primates that humans evolved from.

This a situation that the 3 S Policy; Shoot, Shovel and Shutup is well advised.
 
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