Less than 60 days to a major election and no panic buying. I'm Surprised!

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I have been burnt out of panic buying since well before Sandy Hook, to be blunt I really just don‘t care. I either have enough for range time or I don’t, I will just go fishing or something. I will make sure I have enough available to protect the home and family but that doesn’t require much stockpiling.
 
I'm not seeing or hearing about any panic buying around here. A lot of my shooting buddies, including me, have bought reloading supplies this year to replace what we have used over the last 4 years. But not at panic volumes.

The stores are mostly well stocked. The gun counters and racks are full of new guns. (lots of AR's) The reloading isles are well stocked except for primers and Alliant powder. Hornady bullets were among the first to show back up but now I'm starting to see others including Sierra. One of the local stores had brass case 9mm ammo for $9.95/50 all Summer long. .223/5.56 has come down from the highs of a few years ago.

I use DoorDash to do a lot of my grocery shopping. A few years ago I would get a lot of substitutions, now I get very few. But everything I use costs more. I combat that by taking advantage of sales, promotions, coupons, ect. I took advantage of free shipping or free HazMat days when ordering primers or powder.
 
Old Dog said:
Maybe if the price of things like milk and eggs hadn't almost doubled in the past three years, and gas was still $1.89 at the pump, people would be engaged in some panic buying.
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I haven't bought due to up coming supply elimination since 1993 and I have much more ability to do so today. Probably because I don't do those sorts of things...
 
Miami_JBT said:
Everyday, people come of age to purchase firearms. Today's 19 year-old a few years back wanted guns but couldn't buy 'em.
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That's a valid point. However, as a counter argument,

1. The culture is changing. 19 year olds today are less interested in guns than were previous generations. Less hunting, and more video games and Tik Tok.

2. Guns are durable. We already have more guns than people. What happens to guns when their elderly owners die off? They get passed down to the younger generations. Hence, fewer sales of new guns.
 
AlexanderA said:
The culture is changing. 19 year olds today are less interested in guns than were previous generations. Less hunting, and more video games and Tik Tok.
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How many recently of age shooters do you hang around with? I see plenty of younger folks at the various LGS and corporate shops, and they aren't all thugs.

The future of shooting isn't a bunch geriatric grey beards yelling at clouds.
 
I still have pre-2012 supplies. I used to live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. Every month was panic buy month for me there. I moved to AL six years ago with three weeks notice. I am embarrassed to say I did not do any shooting since I moved hear. I've been too busy at work and setting up the house. That changed a few months ago after I took a long range precision rifle course. I wouldn't call it panic buying--more like making up for lost time. I joined two ranges (one will go to 1400 yards), started a precision rifle build, bought a bunch of suppressors, bought a SW 41 (always wanted one) and started reloading again. I finally unpacked some boxes that were stacked in the garage from the move-had enough parts to build two ARs. I also found a good gunsmith 5 miles away. I am getting many rifles threaded for the cans.

I agree with the OP, no one seems to be in a panic around here. I am learning it may just be becasue everyone is stocked to the hilt already. At the range this weekend, one guy had a couple of huge bins full of gear. He wqas getting ready for hunting season. The other fellow was shooting the rifle he learned how to shoot with--when he was four years old.

Moving to the south was the best professional and personal decision I made. It took me a while to settle in. Yup, no panic, just catching up.
 
.455_Hunter said:
How many recently of age shooters do you hang around with? I see plenty of younger folks at the various LGS and corporate shops, and they aren't all thugs.

The future of shooting isn't a bunch geriatric grey beards yelling at clouds.
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I can see both sides of the culture side. Lots of youth absorbed in Tik-Tok and the like with no concern that the world is crumbling around them. On the flip side, video games featuring firearms did wonders for expanding the appeal away from firearms for hunting for today's youth. I've seen kids that got into shooting via games which is one of the few positives I can attribute to them.
On the flip side, I do see a lot of thugs in gun shops these days, I'm often concerned by who I see buying.
 
AlexanderA said:
That's a valid point. However, as a counter argument,

1. The culture is changing. 19 year olds today are less interested in guns than were previous generations. Less hunting, and more video games and Tik Tok.

2. Guns are durable. We already have more guns than people. What happens to guns when their elderly owners die off? They get passed down to the younger generations. Hence, fewer sales of new guns.
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Hunting isn't selling guns. We're an urbanized population these days. If you're banking on the idea that hunting is what's selling guns. You're mistaken.

Today's youth are buying guns for primarily three reasons.

1. Self-defense
2. Pop Culture
3. Hobby

You state gaming is something today's youth does. Yup, they sure do. And guess what, gaming is pop culture and pop culture sells guns. When kids become young adults and they learn that they can own the guns they use in the games. Guess what, they buy it.

Social media and the internet has exploded gun culture to today's youth and it is awesome.
 
Will Munny said:
I can see both sides of the culture side. Lots of youth absorbed in Tik-Tok and the like with no concern that the world is crumbling around them. On the flip side, video games featuring firearms did wonders for expanding the appeal away from firearms for hunting for today's youth. I've seen kids that got into shooting via games which is one of the few positives I can attribute to them.
On the flip side, I do see a lot of thugs in gun shops these days, I'm often concerned by who I see buying.
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Gaming is a huge gateway drug to guns these days.

Also, remember when you were young and the elders of your yesteryears considered your generation to be slovenly in appearance, lazy, selfish, and listened to noise, not music?
 
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Miami_JBT said:
Gaming is a huge gateway drug to guns these days.

Also, remember when you were young and the elders of your yesteryears considered your generation to be slovenly in appearance, lazy, selfish, and listened to noise, not music?
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No, because I listened to the music my parents did and dressed well.
 
ballman6711 said:
The president does not determine my wages. The president does determine policy and which direction this country is headed.


No, I'm not. Market loss has been caused by many things, such as covid shutdowns, stimulus checks, near record inflation, etc.... I'm also not giving Biden credit for the markets recent recovery and gains. I'm saying he was in charge when these things happened, nothing more or less.

I'm not going to panic. Not about guns, reloading, or the upcoming election. When people panic they tend to make poor decisions.


chris
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Well, Trump was president when the catalytic converter was cut off my daughter's car. I'm not blaming him, but he was in charge of the country when it happened. Just an observation.

I'm not panic buying either, but other than general economic issues, I have trouble understanding why folks think they need to buy tens of thousands of rounds just because Harris wins. There is no prospect that ammo will be outlawed or even regulated, and any idea that we will need tens of thousands of rounds for dealing with some social unrest is silly. We went through this with Obama and Biden and, surprise, life just went on. My recollection is that the cheapest ammo was under Clinton.
 
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AlexanderA said:
That's a valid point. However, as a counter argument,

1. The culture is changing. 19 year olds today are less interested in guns than were previous generations. Less hunting, and more video games and Tik Tok.

2. Guns are durable. We already have more guns than people. What happens to guns when their elderly owners die off? They get passed down to the younger generations. Hence, fewer sales of new guns.
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.455_Hunter said:
How many recently of age shooters do you hang around with? I see plenty of younger folks at the various LGS and corporate shops, and they aren't all thugs.

The future of shooting isn't a bunch geriatric grey beards yelling at clouds.
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I've been an urban shooter since the 21st century came along. Before that, my shooting was primarily hunting.

In the last 20+ years, I don't see any 19 year olds buying or shooting guns unless they are with an older family member. They simply don't have the money yet.

I do see young folks with good jobs in their mid to upper 20s starting to get into guns with their own money, though. That's if they haven't started a family. Young family folks that I know around here don't have the extra coin to do much with guns. Considering wages versus the 21st century 1st world lifestyle that costs more to obtain and maintain, it's not surprising.
 
Miami_JBT said:
Gaming is a huge gateway drug to guns these days.

Also, remember when you were young and the elders of your yesteryears considered your generation to be slovenly in appearance, lazy, selfish, and listened to noise, not music?
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Depends on the generation. I came to age after hippies but before grunge rock. In that time frame, we dressed as good as we could afford even if the clothing was bought lightly used from a thrift store. Yet, there were always lazy slackers. Just like in every generation.

The thing that stands out to me the most in the younger folks in the current times is that young Americans aren't as skinny (on average) as they were in the 20th century. Even up to the end of the 1990s. Gawd dang this country got fat.
 
When I was young I bought guns that I could afford, enjoyed them, but our culture is set up to ensure that we are never satisfied with what we have. Those guns are gone, but I don't use the the replacements, which are generally better guns, as often or as skillfully as I used the earlier ones.

The old trapshooting adage was "if you want to miss, get a new gun". And yes I horrified my parents at one time just as most of my cohort did. I did learn a thing or two along the way, however, and one thing is that I am about as happy as I decide to be.
 
I'm proud to say that my 2 Son's are into guns. One of them has gotten into competition and reloading. The other is a serious Duck Hunter. Serious to the point that He bought an old Fish Farm to hunt on. One of my DIL's also shoots and hunts a little. And 4 of the 5 Grandkids hunt and shoot. One Granddaughter and one of the youngest Grandsons killed their first Doves this year hunting with me. But yeah, culture is not the same it was when I was a kid.
 
roscoe said:
You are attributing your loss to Biden? Or is it possible it had to do with the perturbation of the world economy during largest pandemic since the Spanish Flu? Either way, a look at the stock market over the last few decades will show you that presidents have very little to do with that. Sure they want to take credit when it is good, or avoid blame when it is bad, but there is no evidence that they can have any effect at all. Those trends extend far beyond any one, or even two administrations.

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pandemics etc.
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None of this has anything to do with guns. I don't understand why this thread is still open. It violates the no politics rule.
 
rust collector said:
At some point, manipulation fatigue sets in. Those who are susceptible have already been whipped into a frenzy. Those less inclined to stampede are keeping tabs on things, tracking the numbers and watching for opportunities.
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I think that is a big part of the equation. After the 2008 election, 2012 Sandy Hook, 2016 Election, 2020 Covid panic buying sprees the gun buying market no longer cares. We have finally reach a saturation point where everyone one who might be inclined to panic buy guns has bought and people who panic stockpile guns and ammo are already fully loaded.

Could another panic buying frenzy happen? Sure. But it's going to take something above and beyond what has already happened. It has reached the point my local shops are no longer buying any guns. They are fully stocked and not selling anything. The last couple times I have visited these shops, they were like ghost towns but had a fully stocked store with no buyers and empty parking lots.
 
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