Let's have a candid conversation about GLOCKs.

[DonRon]

Glock reliability and durability rivals that of the most durable and dependable auto loader ever designed and made, the Russian Makarov PM. They share the same principles, less parts equals less problem and totally serviceable by the end user in the field with little required training. Plus universal parts replacement also like the Mak. To me, that is very intelligently thought design for a combat weapon. Like them or hate them they simply work and work well in a very high percentage of the time.

My personal observations is that they are excellent CCW with no protruding and sharp edges like a 1911 or a S&W revolver and I am sure that was not by accident either. I read somewhere that a 1911 is what you show your friends and a Glock is what you show you enemies.

As the author of post # 90 I really don't see what is moronic about it. It was an opinion just as yours is an opinion. I like Glocks and carry one every day and would never even consider any single action pistol for self defense such that requires 2 actions to make it fire.

Safeties can get you killed. With a revolver and a Glock there is only one action needed....pull the trigger. That is innovation that seemed to have escaped the John Moses Browning worshipers. But then again, that is my opinion. Que Sara Sear!

 

[jackpinesavages]

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[Sheepdog1968]

I think they are and fine reliable pistol. I don't love or hate them.

 

[MCMXI]

Safeties can get you killed.

No ... lack of training and practice can get you killed.

 

[Marshall]

somewhat ugly
bad ergonomics(they are nicknamed Blocks for a reason)
bad grip angle for many people
un-supported chamber

Agreed.

I'm not a hater nor a supporter, just prefer other choices available.

 

[DonRon]

This thread is lacking. We need a fifth page. That should get us to a consensus... right?

There is already a consensus. A Glock is a far better designed combat weapon than the military scrapped 1911. But that will never stop the controversy like the 9mm vs 45 caliber. I say shoot what ever you are happy with and like and all this nonsense about grip angle and how it points or if you got a $300.00 Sear and a $500.00 Hammer in it won't mean a flip to the bad guy. A $150.00 High Point 45 will shoot the same cartridge and stop him just as quick, don't you think!

 

[DonRon]

No ... lack of training and practice can get you killed.

That was my point exactly, you don't need a hole lot of training to learn how to shoot a Glock. Actually it was the first Point and Click device made.

 

[Old krow]

So we turned this into Glock vs 1911? There's a reason the 1911 is 100 years old. There's a reason Glocks are popular. Both look the same on the other side and if one were more reliable than the other it would not instill enough courage in me to charge the person wielding it.

Fortunately for me I live in a place where I can have both if I want... that affords for the ability to annoy both sides!!

 

[DonRon]

So we turned this into Glock vs 1911? There's a reason the 1911 is 100 years old. There's a reason Glocks are popular. Both look the same on the other side and if one were more reliable than the other it would not instill enough courage in me to charge the person wielding it.

Fortunately for me I live in a place where I can have both if I want... that affords for the ability to annoy both sides!!

You knew it would but then again every gun owner is a Fan Boy for what he owns, call it human nature to brag about what you spent you money on. I like all hand guns including the 1911 and have a few but, I carry a Glock as a CCW every single day so I guess I prefer them to the others I guess.

 

[NMGonzo]

So there are Glock lovers and haters, I don't see many in the neutral stand.
Most people that loves Glock name its reliability, durable coat, simplicity, etc.

What are reasons why people don't like the GLOCK??

Because it does not conceal as well as my 1911.

In a perfect world, Glocks would be as thin as the Taurus slimline.

 

[DenaliPark]

somewhat ugly
bad ergonomics(they are nicknamed Blocks for a reason)
bad grip angle for many people
un-supported chamber
foreign made.

Other than that I they are almost perfect.

Bad ergonomics & grip angle? LMAO....It's double action only, you draw the weapon, aim and fire it without so much as having to tickle an extraneous extra, and it is the uncontested, A-number-1 most popular sidearm in American LE, including the US Marshals, DEA, and the FBI.
Millions more Americans prefer the Glock(in any caliber)over any other alternative, they must have funny wrists....

 

[PR-NJ]

I've recently been bitten, and I really, really like my new G19. I shoot it better than any of my other handguns (granted, I'm nowhere near a marksman). The grip takes some getting used to, but I can't get over the accuracy.

 

[Hangingrock]

A simplistic view point Glock’s work. Fact is that S&W is on their third rendition Sigma, SW99, and MP to replicate Glock’s success in the market place. Glock’s market share can’t be easily ignored.

 

[TexasGunbie]

Behold! the Original Poster had commented! (me)

I owned many guns before I just recently acquired a Glock. I have shot all Glock competitors... Sigs, Taurus, XDs, CZ, M&P, Ruger SR9, Kahr, etc... I kept trading and trading and finally I submited myself to a glock.

The stupid reason I didn't get a glock at first is as follow... I went out with a few friends that had glocks, and they were pretty cocky and bashing everything else. I think everyone that begin shooting ran into a lot of GLOCK jerks very early on, but now that I own a glock, I really enjoy it. It's a workhorse that won't quit on you. I like it's simplicity. I actually think it looks real good compare to other guns, and the finish is so durable that I don't worry much about scratching it.

However... I can't compare a glock to a 1911, nor can you compare a 1911 to a glock.
The legendary status of the 1911 will always stick with it, but I think now days the ownership of 1911 is different from the olden days. Now, you own a 1911 because of the nostalgic feel, and the many aesthetic things you can do to it just adds onto the fun of owning a 1911. Now if you like to be old school, you would carry your 1911 too!

To me, the issue with 1911 is that it simply cost too much for me to keep it functional. The magazine is a big part of the gun, I have had many issues with 1911 mags, and replacing a 1911 is expensive.

Many of you pointed out the magazine design was very essential to the success of glock, I think that's a crucial point in this thread. Most people still have the same magazine since they bought the gun, and it's still functional.

I might be influenced by you guys after reading 5 pages of this, so it might sound like I am reiterating previous posters! Keep on posting! MORE DRAMA!

 

[S&W-Keeper]

Everybody needs a Glock 19.

 

[TexasGunbie]

Quote:

"Originally Posted by DonRon
Safeties can get you killed."

No ... lack of training and practice can get you killed.

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AUT PAX AUT BELLUM

The two of you makes a fine couple ! I am going to add my own into this!

"The trigger is my safety!"

And this works for the GLOCK because it actually does have a safety on the trigger! Oh and a safe holster for the GLOCK is a safety measure too!

 

[ny32182]

Buy guns for function or whatever other reasons appeal to you, and not to be part of a social club, and this would be less an issue.

"Glock jerks"? Does something like this really come into consideration for people when they are buying stuff? You saw a moron with a Glock, so said inanimate object is bad. No offense, but that is some... interesting logic.

You are not in a frat as a result of buying a gun. You don't have to like everyone else that owns that gun any more than you like everyone else who drives the same car or wears the same underwear.

I swear this isn't the first thread I've seen with this exact reasoning either.

 

[outofpractice]

Yeah, you're right on the trigger part. As someone who unchambered a round from a Glock after it was pointed in my face by a novice some 20 years ago, I agree. The best part of it was when I berated the idiot who only dropped the magazine before handing it over- he said something like: "The safety's on the trigger". I was like- "***?!?!?!? Where's the sense in that if you don't know to keep your finger off the trigger?" Not a Glock hater but it didn't leave the best taste in my mouth. On the other hand, just to be fair, the only other (unknowingly) loaded gun I was handed was a Colt 1903 hammerless.

 

[DonRon]

Actually the best gun safety is between your ears!

 

[TexasGunbie]

Buy guns for function or whatever other reasons appeal to you, and not to be part of a social club, and this would be less an issue.

I don't see what you mean at all. When was being a social group a consideration when purchasing a gun?

"Glock jerks"? Does something like this really come into consideration for people when they are buying stuff? You saw a moron with a Glock, so said inanimate object is bad. No offense, but that is some... interesting logic.

Just wanted to try other guns rather than a GLOCK, when I was new to guns, everything is under consideration, since I didn't even know what to look for.
When did I ever said Glock is bad because I met Glock jerks? I did say that I went to try out other guns instead but not because the Glock is bad. At that time I just felt there are other things on par or better.

You assumed too much.

 

[daorhgih]

One good reason to dislike GLOCKs:

R. Lee Ermey. Pompous fraud; excellent well-paid actor. One good reason to at least consider buying a GLOCK: They have SOLD almost 7,000,000 guns. More than any other maker. Now, we do not include the millions of other guns, existing before Gaston, that were issued -- "given" free -- to the military. And excluding $4,000 race-guns or safe-queens. The GLOCK is the small-block Chevy of hand-guns. The 1911 frames are the flat-head Fords of hand-guns.

 

[Marshall]

LMAO....It's double action only

Actually it's striker fired. Not DAO.

 

[DenaliPark]

Actually it's striker fired. Not DAO.

BATFE say it's DAO....BTW, go post that it's a striker fired pistol at Glocktalk and see what they have to say in response!

 

[Sevenfaces]

I used to dislike glocks for the same common reasons everyone has listed, blocky, fat, the "cheap" look and feel of polymer... I shot a rental g19 once and it wasn't bad, I just couldn't get over the cosmetics... then I looked for a reasonably priced compact .45 and I couldn't find anything except the G30...

the combination of the weight, capacity, size, and all the benefits of polymer in a conceal conscious scenario caused me to buy one. After shooting it and realizing how accurate it was despite its small size and light weight, I forgot all about my dislikes.

I happen to have large hands, so the fat frame doesn't bother me, I do however not like the rigid "spikes" in the front strap. Other than that, I can find no faults. I wouldn't call myself a Glock fan, definately a G30 fan though.

edit: I also just want to add that I don't really like the angle of the grip on fullsize glocks, it just looks weird, and feels weird. On the compacts, I don't feel, or see the angular issue.... which is weird...I think...

 

[A and O]

Looks like we are going for six pages folks.

I love Glocks and I love Harley's. Problem is I've never owned either and probably never will, and for the same reason. My list of hand guns to buy is long and the Glock family is close to the bottom. Of course for this reason I'm known as a Glock hater by my friends and family. This to me is good news, because I really do like Glocks. Best Analogy is today's automobiles. So many great choices, just because I don't ride in a Honda Accord don't call me a Honda hater because I bought the BMW.

I lied, I hate Harley's.