1. Browning 22lr - A few months ago it was all I could find, so I bought 5k. It was innaccurate, had duds, massive jammimg in my Walther, Steyer and Taurus guns, and the bullets fell out of a few. Many of them had crooked seating in the cases. Only upside is it was good for FTF training. 2. TULA Nickle plated .223 - These were so low pressure, they would not cycle my S&W M&P. I had to charge the handle every shot, unless I mag dumped them. Shot just about every brand through that gun not one issue after 10k rounds, except the Tula. A guy at work asked me why his AR stopped cycling, and I asked if it had silver bullets. Guess what? I told him unless he wants to charge his gun 1k times, throw it in trash. Another guy said he wanted to buy it, I said no. I emailed Tula, they didn't respond.
I ran out and grabbed a box of WWB off the shelf that is a couple of years old. It looks like the headstamps are pretty much the same. Stay safe.
Steer clear of this stuff.. bought it in a bulk pkg at Gander. Too weak to cycle my Beretta 92FS, My Ruger P95, and my 995TS.
Very interesting thread and the other posters having issues with PPU. Today the wife and I went to the range; she was shooting the Cabela's Herters brand in her Glock 42 without any issues; 100 rounds cycled flawlessly. Got to the box of PPU, 94gr and the gun became a jam-o-matic. I definitely attribute this to the ammunition; it is not the magazines or the gun as it has never had a malfunctioning issue before with any other ammunition like Federal, Hornady, Sellier & Bellot, etc.
Winchester .22lr subsonic. The truncated cone style hp. They shot very well in a cz452. Groups were competitive with match ammo so I bought a couple bricks, and was stingy about using them over other 22lr. Apparently I needed to shoot them faster. In ~8 years they went from maybe 1% fail-to-fire to around 20%. They were stored in a safe in a dry climate. I've never seen primer compound expire outside of these rounds.
this one fired out-of battery when being loaded....i blame the gun not the round....it was a bryco. complete junk. funny part was guy shooting it I warned before we got the range it would blow up in his hand and it did. lucky no major injuries and gun wasn't harmed at all, go figure. he no longer shoots that gun. I haven't run into any really bad ammo over the years. I shoot a lot and lots of dirty, but not much inconsistent.
Due to the crappy ammo I have had to deal with in the past 10-15 years the Remington Golden bullets will remain on the store shelves, even if they were giving them away. I cant understand those that never had a dud when I was getting 1 in 10 or more duds from multiple bulk boxes purchased at different times from different stores. Tried them in several rifles, pistols, and revolvers. I even rotated and tried again. I can't even rember of a dud with any of the other brands of .22 ammo I use. Just say'in.
Greek Olympic 5.56x45 gave me 8-10" groups in a Savage bolt action. Other brands kept it between half an inch and two inches. I sold almost 500 remaining rounds with a full "this is not accurate" disclaimer during the Obama panic. The guys who bought it were glad to have it for plinking ammo when that caliber wasn't available in stores.
I have a case of PPU M885. I've never shot any of it that I recall but always assumed it was good to go. I always heard PPU was top shelf stuff, I'm surprised to see so many posters with failures.... I like the bright red sealant, looks like quality stuff. I guess I should test some out for accuracy and reliability.
They look like they’re loaded light, maybe missing some powder. FedEx is unusually rough on my packages. I’d call the manufacturer and send them back. You never know, they might replace them and send extra back...
On a serious note, prior to the First Gulf War we were shooting rounds that had been manufactured in the mid-fifties. They shot all that up during Desert Storm. Then we were shooting rounds that had been manufactured in the early to mid seventies. The M110A2 was retired in 99(ish) and we were still shooting rounds from the early 80s. After they were retired they were sold to Morocco, presumably with all the ammunition that hadn't been shot up
'A timely topic considering many of us are probably buying ammo now that we would normally not consider. That said, mine is a couple of unopened spam cans of Russian corrosive ammo. I'm just waiting for the day where I can hit a range to blast through some of it, and haven't had the opportunity.
The worst factory ammo I've ever seen was sent back to the manufacture and I officially got my refund check in the mail yesterday so I won't rag on them. I will say it was American made defensive hollow points. The crimp was terrible.(TERRIBLE!) But the manufacturer made it right so I'm happy with the outcome.
I don't have any to show, but I can tell. Around 2004, my unit deployed to Latin America for a little while to train some allies. Due to certain "logistical issues" (2 wars), standard US milspec ammo wasn't available for the training (although we did bring ample GI ammo for OUR use). As a result, a contract was drawn up through a private vendor, and we brought over 100,000 rounds of Greek olympic 5.56 to support training the indigenous forces. This ammunition was so bad, we had to stop training after the first day. It kept blowing primers, which would end up in weird places in their weapons and hopelessly lock them up. The weapons consisted of brand new M4 type carbines and rebuilt US surplus M16A2 rifles. Another indig unit that we weren't training had Galil rifles. We borrowed a couple of them and test fired a few rounds of this ammo. We experienced blown primers with the Galils, but didn't get any stuck in the actions. We also halted the test as soon as we found the blown primers during the Galil test (within the first magazine on each Galil). As a result, the unit was forced to coordinate an emergency resupply of US made ammo to execute the training. I believe it was American Eagle that we got on the resupply. The Greek ammunition was disposed of on the demolition range.
