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Let's talk about Destructive Devices

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Evil Monkey, Oct 6, 2006.

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  1. Evil Monkey

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    Why is it that in order to buy 40mm grenades you have to pay $200 tax for each one? It doesn't make sense. It's AMMO! We're not paying 200 for each shotgun shell to use in street sweepers and USAS 12 shotguns, why pay for the grenade?

    Is it possible to open a plant domestically and start producing RPG-7 rocket launchers for the public, assuming they can afford them and live in a DD state? (It felt so good saying "RPG-7 rocket launchers for the public":evil: )

    more questions to come when I learn more about DD's.:)
     
  2. MatthewVanitas

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    The red light and siren is flashing in the Liability Lawyers' Hall of Justice.

    Squads of men in gray suits and briefcases are sliding down poles and piling into Jaguar APCs.


    There's probably a very, very good reason that the manufacturers of 40mm grenades and the like don't sell them to the public, even with a DD stamp for every single round.

    But I'm always open to learn new things, so I'll quit the snarky comments and watch the thread. -MV
     
  3. DoubleTapDrew

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    HAHAHA! You owe me a keyboard

    Assuming someone could afford to play with those wouldn't that be a carpal tunnel monday for the ATF agent that has to remove 100 or so 40mm rounds from the registry after a Knob Creek type of weekend and then sign another 100 form 4's that come in :banghead:
     
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    You only need to pay $200 tax on exploding 40mm ammo. 40mm practice ammo with inert projectiles do not require the tax. Ammo for a DD is not always a DD itself, only if it has over a certain amount of explosive in it.

    Same thing applies to your 12ga. If you had exploding 12ga. ammo, there would be a $200 tax on each piece.

    That is the reason that .50BMG Rafuoss ammo is legal as pertaining to DD status, the debate on it is whether or not it is legal due to being stolen military property. Supposedly some has been sold legaly on the non-military market for testing purposes, and that is how it got loose, since the manufacturer doesn't normally sell to the public.
     
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    /me dons tinfoil hat.
     
  7. DoubleTapDrew

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    What fun is practice ammo? I can toss around 1lb balls of lead and pretend they are practice grenades but it would be pretty boring.
     
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    Would suck to be that guy.:uhoh:
     
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    Hey, that's why they are there.
    Help keep the guy employed: go buy some DDs and NFA weapons.
     
  11. Evil Monkey

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    :scrutiny: :confused:

    Why in the world would you want to KEEP an ATF agent employed???
     
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    According to (2), my potato gun is a destructive device, but I've seen letters from the ATF saying they're not. Complicated and discretionary.
     
  13. Jim K

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    "Why is it that in order to buy 40mm grenades you have to pay $200 tax for each one?"

    How about a simple answer? Because it's the law. If you don't like it, (1) work to change it (fat chance), (2) go to another country where 40mm grenades are legal (if there is one), or (3) say to hell with the law, get the grenades illegally if you can, and go to jail if you are caught.

    Great choices.

    Jim
     
  14. Evil Monkey

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    A little bitter are we Jim?
     
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    Nope it's loaded from the muzzle so it is a muzzleloader not a DD. Same as a muzzleloading cannon.
     
  16. DirtyBrad

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    Actually, that one is loaded from the breech. No one rat me out.
     
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    Co-worker built a crew serviced potato gun in his science class in High School. They where shooting it off into the woods and accidently started raining potatos on the cross country team who happened to be running through the woods.:D I think he said they had it down to 10-15 seconds for a reload.
     
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    potatoes on the cross-country team!?!?!?!?

    Can't.....breathe.....laughing......too.......hard.............:D

    Springmom
     
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    HAHAHA!! I can see the team captain saying "We're under fire!!! Take cover!" as the potato artillery spotter says "DIRECT HIT!! FIRE FOR EFFECT!"
     
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    I take it this is the first of Mr. Keenan's posts you've read?

    On Topic:

    El Tejon and Justin have (been) volunteered (by me) to lead the fight against tyranny, using the age old weapons of logic, lawyers and bull$hite. Start by voluteering here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=226347

    We'll make 40mm exploding projectiles our next cause, once we've got the machinery built and oiled.
     
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    From what he told me the cross country coach was running toward them screaming, "Cease fire, cease fire." They thought there was nobody in the woods but the timing just happened to be right.
     
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    Just curious, what's the difference between a missle and a rocket?
     
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    hee hee hee. "Hey, moving targets!" :evil:

    Missiles are guided, rockets are not.
     
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    In many states, take NC since I am here for example they are classed as weapons of mass destruction. Not something you can easily convince the BATF to let you have one for civilian purposes. They don't want crazies such as Eric Rudolph to get ahold of them easier than they do today. Makes life more difficult in areas that require martial law too.
     
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    Luckily, you don't have to "convince" the BATFE to "let" you have one. If you can afford one, and aren't in a prohibited category, and IF your state allows them, you can have one. Period.

    "Easier than they do today?" Disregarding the obviously fallacious assertion that "crazies" would try to obtain a weapon like this through legal channels, when was the last time you heard of an RPG or a M-79 being used in the commission of a crime?
     
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