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lets tax ammo

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 40 rod, Jan 26, 2013.

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  1. 40 rod

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    I suggest we propose an excise tax on ammo - 10 cents a round centerfire, a nickel a primer, a penny each for rimfire or purcussion caps. half the procedes to go to school security the other half to promoting shooting ranges and firearms instruction. at least it will give folks something to argue about besides hi-cap mags and assault weapons.
     
  2. splithoof

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    You may go ahead and pay your own tax, on your way back to England!
     
  3. Ragnar Danneskjold

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    Stop trying to take what I have earned to pay for you desires.
     
  4. Rob1109

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    Do you really think that is where the people we elected would spend that tax?
     
  5. 40 rod

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    The only time I have seen England was from a airplane on the way to Iraq.
     
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    If you feel the need, you can personally donate money to such a cause. Like the NRA for gun safety and education, which many here already do. But, the tax is horrible idea. A tax, especially at that high, once implemented would used against the 2A. All an anti congress would have to do is raise the taxes so high it would unaffordable to Americans and therefore destroying our RKBA.
     
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    OK. You pay my share of the tax and donate it to the NRA-ILA cause.
     
  8. 2ifbyC

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    I'll agree to that tax when Congress pays a tax on every lie they state. If they pay that tax, the ammo tax offer will be chump change in comparison.
     
  9. 40 rod

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    I didn't expect it was a popular idea. but once a tax base is started the politicians will not want it to go away.
     
  10. jbkebert

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    Its funny we already pay a excise tax of ammo. It is called the Pittman/Robertson fund. This excise tax goes to wildlife habitat and education as well as other things to benefit animals. Now with all of the ammo sales over the past several years you would think monies would be plentiful. Yet most state fish and game and outdoor education agencies have not seen much of this excess.

    I have a very strong hunch that the same would take place with your proposed tax. It would get lost along its merry way to the intended place.
     
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    I thank you for your presumed service, but this is a bad idea man.

    I pay far to much of my hard earned paycheck to our bloated, ever expanding government as it is. The majority of which will inevitably go towards entitlements.

    Want to support gun safety and education? Donate to the NRA or like groups on your own accord.

    I don't personally think armed security in schools is a good answer for this country either, as it is far to expensive to be a realistic option for most districts. Instead, I support allowing teachers who are licensed concealed carry permit holders to carry in the classroom in order to able to defend themselves and their students. My guess is that at least a handful of teachers in most districts would be open to exercising this right.

    I don't understand why many insist we need to give up any ground here. Let the anti's stew in there own emotional reactions, the rest of us will use logic.
     
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    ''once a tax base is started the politicians will not want it to go away''

    that's why it's not a popular notion. I say we dump their tea in the harbor...
     
  13. 40 rod

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    I agree with jbkbert. only a fool expects all of your taxes to be well spent , thats not the point. but it might be a good distraction from the current debate.
     
  14. 4v50 Gary

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    It would distract no one. They would endorse it and then proceed with their efforts to ban guns or magazines anyway. The effect of such a tax would make shooting cost prohibitive for the poor or the middle class. Only the rich could afford to shoot then. Thanks for reminding us that we're peasants.
     
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    What effect will any such new taxes have on psychos and career criminals?

    I thank you for your service, but there are other ways to contribute money which are not punitive for law-abiding US citizens.

    Notice, just one little bite at a time, and one day our gun regulations will be as severe as those of the Aussies, British and most Europeans etc.
    The Germans must attend several classes, and acquire the "***zeugnis" or such, and pay money for The Privilege.

    'Guerrilla warfare', so to speak, against guns doesn't expect one sudden Blitzkrieg victory.
    As you are well aware, it is a long-term process by which the public doesn't really notice the final result.
     
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    Pittman Robertson funds are also used shooting range const.:)
     
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    If I want distraction, I can go down to the beach and watch the ladies. You can run for office in California; I'm sure you will be elected.
     
  18. 40 rod

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    Some times you have to throw a bone to get the dogs to quit barking.
     
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    Rabid dogs will never quit.
     
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    Once the bone gets eaten, does the dog get hungry again?
     
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    That line of thought has resulted in a steady erosion of rights.

    No more compromises, NFA'34, GCA'68, the brady bill, the former AWB, various state AWB's ... all of those were "compromises" or "throwing them a bone".
    They come back for more, NO MORE COMPROMISE.

    Look at NY state for where "compromise" gets you in the long run.
     
  22. 40 rod

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    If you toss a big enough bone they choke.
     
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    The problem is that we've thrown them so many bones we have almost no spine left....really, I know where you're coming from, it's natural to want to be ''reasonable'', but they are not reasonable. it's all about creeping incrementalisim.
     
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    Let us educate you a bit about the situation. The government does not care about school safety, mag limits, or whatever excuse comes down the pike this week.

    They ultimately would love nothing more than to disarm American citizens. Completely. Think about it, what country in the world encourages their citizens to be fully armed? Even Swizerland told their aux civilian military members to turn in their Sig's.

    That's why our RKBA is so unique and we must preserve it with all our muster.

    Exactly.
     
  25. 2ifbyC

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    So now you are pulling out the old gag line.:rolleyes:
     
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