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Letter to TIME magazine. RE: Ballistic Fingerprinting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by George Hill, Apr 29, 2003.

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  1. George Hill

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    I sent the following to Time Magazine in response to something that I have just read. Perhaps I fired off the cuff, but I was/am ticked off.
    I don't believe in Ballistic Fingerprinting. I think it's useless, and a wasted effort and expense.
    Here is what I said.
     
  2. Partisan Ranger

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    You're on the money. You could also point out that the ballistic fingerprinting boondoggles in MD and NY have cost 10s? of millions of dollars and have solved no crimes at all.

    Very expensive to implement, of very limited value, tons of money being diverted from law enforcement, and infringes on the rights of law-abiding folks....gosh, what's not to like?
     
  3. sm

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    Well said George!

    I know someone, whom while out of town, mailed a spent case and 1/2 of a $10 bill. "Gentlemen, when you find me you get the other 1/2 of this $10 bill."

    Last I heard, this fellow is still waiting .

    :D
     
  4. Partisan Ranger

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    Anyone who is intellectually honest and actually thinks about this knows it would never work. It would be so simple for criminals to alter a gun's 'fingerprint.' Yet again, the only people who would obey are law-abiding people.

    That's why so few crimes are committed by people with CCWs (oh, sure, the Brady guys can find a few, but they are just that - FEW). People with CCWs are by definition obeyers of the law. It logically follows that only people who generally abide by the law are going to go through the rigamorole of obtaining a permit.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    I contacted a firearms/toolmark examiner and asked about ballistic fingerprinting. His reponse was:
    "BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!"
    and told me he'd tell me why it didn't work but his fingers were too tired to type several pages and the list just goes on.

    He concluded by telling me that firearms examiners are "Pro-gun, anti-idiot." :D
     
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    Well said.

    Time is just another leftist extremist propaganda rag.
     
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    Very well said. I doubt they will, but let us know if they print any or all of your letter. The only problem I had with your letter was...
    but, hey that's just me.
     
  9. HankL

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    let's see. Amendment to the bill about ballistic finger printing should include verbiage making it illegal for the purchaser of an Archived firearm to alter it in any way. Words like;
    shall not fire lap, clean, shoot come to my mind.

    That will make the anti's argument much more supportable.

    Go get em George!
     
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    Tire prints left at crime scenes have been used like finger prints to prove that a particular vehicle was involved in a crime. It can be useful, but it can also be easily defeated. Most criminals aren't smart enough to cross the street alone, but dumping a stolen gun in a landfill is all it would take to make the system useless. Nothing's perfect.

    Some of the folks against Ballistic Fingerprinting are the same folks who have posted the serial number of one of their guns on the Internet.:confused: What makes a National database intrusive, but broadcasting the make, model, caliber and serial number over the Internet okay?:scrutiny:
     
  11. George Hill

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    Of course they have, Blade...
    But after the fact and the tire print, or shoe print was taken at the time of the crime investigation... not before it left the factory.
    25,000 miles later, the unique tire imprints are different and such evidence would do investigators little or no help other than "Yup, it's a Goodyear."
     
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    If this flawed idea would have the effect that advocates say, I would consider it.

    But it is just another onerous gun law that is going to fall heavily on the backs of the law-abiding.

    If they got a database going on new firearms, how many years would it be before they passed laws requiring us to bring in older firearms? 5 years maybe?
     
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    ...still have 1/2 of a ten-spot

    reckon -if sent to another agency that does BF...the two of them could match up a ten-spot?
    ;)



    nah :D



    who me...what guns?
     
  14. RobW

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    Sirs, again and again

    this has NOTHING to do with crime solving! It's just another step to register ALL guns and finally CONFISCATE the guns of law abiding "citizens" (criminals will ALWAYS have guns).

    ALL the "gun-laws" are criminal protection laws. The government NEED the criminals because they scare the sheeple and the politicians are thus allowed to create more laws to disarm the "citizenry". As far as I know, the handgun-registration here in Clark County didn't help in a single case and we have some gang wars and shootings every week (14 last month). It JUST PROVIDES MORE GOVERNMENT!

    That makes the "politicians" safe in their power. Can you imagine you and 10 of your co-workers are going to your boss and say, hey, we need to raise our wages $ 5,000.00 starting next month? Guess who is already able to do that!

    Gun control has nothing to do with guns, crime protection, and crime solving, BUT WITH CONTROL!

    This is why "liberals" (actually "intolerants") don't want to deal with logic.

    Sad :fire:
     
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