Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Newtosavage, Mar 11, 2022.
Again, for newcomers to the thread, I'm looking for a new rifle. Straight Wall cartridges (I do not like reloading necked cartridges), range beyond 200 yards, Lever Action. I have a Rossi in 357 Lever, but want something with more range. Thanks.
The round is a bad option for a lever gun, the ammo is not made for a lever gun, and it is getting you to a place where other (better lever rounds) already are.
3 Sport - unless you live in a straight wall only area I would really look harder at necked stuff, it simply will serve you better if you want more range. Could see if your .357 can be made into a 357Max.
375 winchester or 444 marlin are your huckleberry.
The gun is uniquely handy without a scope mounted and only marginally less so if you need one. And finally, round nose bullets from a trajectory standpoint, are no draw back inside of 200 yds and may offer a bit more 'brush bucking' ability than spitzers. At 200 grains & 2100 fps from a 20" bbl., Remington's famous Core Loc bullet has built an enviable reputation for accuracy and solid expansion right out to 200 yds.
The .350 might appeal to some who like an auto action in a deer rifle, but for me, I'll stay with the old Marlin lever gun. YMMv, Rod
I've heard great and not so great things about the 444 Marlin. But I understand everyone has their opinion.
375 Winchester also has my attention.
To be fair, the company which invented the cartridge also launched a bolt action rifle chambered for it at the same time - so while it certainly functions in AR’s, I don’t think it’s apt to say it was designed only with AR’s in mind.
And if they do, I'm a buyer...
I could see a TALO or Davidsons exclusive 336 in 357 Max with a limited run of 1000 or so. Dont hold your breath though. I dont see a factory produced 350L lever action ever though.
The shortened 375 is an interesting idea. This has of course been done already by experimenters (wildcatters) but without changing the chamber and just shooting the short case through it. Apparently, it can work and would be legal for many of those straight wall states. Same has been done with 444 Marlin. There is a 1.8" case 444 Marlin wildcat known as the 44 Mad Max. Most of the use with that cartridge has been with single shots though.
A lone ranger in 350 would be great.
I was unaware of this. Although I, historically, have been a pistol cartridge reloader, so my focus was always on handgun ammo and performance. I knew some states opened straight wall carts for deer hunting, but did not know there were regulations on length of the cartridge, i.e., "Too Long".
Yes, it is stupid but some states limit the straight wall case to 1.8 inches. Generic synopsis:
Rimmed cartridges must have a case measuring 1.285 to 1.8 inches in length. In the limited-firearms deer zone, hunters are permitted to use straight-wall cartridges with cases between 1.16 and 1.8 inches in length, and bullets with diameters larger than . 35 inch.
And while ranting I would wish to get rid of all the boutique seasons and just have a bow season and a gun season. If it shoots a bullet it is a gun and if it shoots an arrow it is a bow.
Thanks for this post. I was unaware. I agree with your "two-season" hunting suggestion. That would make sense, and simplify things. And that's (unfortunately) why it will never be put into policy. It makes too much sense and would make things too easy.
Probably has something to do with states that require a straight wall case for whitetail deer hunting. I've used the .35 Rem (Marlin, my brother's) to take whitetails and it was a ton of fun. Then again, I just like the traditional lever gun aesthetics.
That makes sense.
38-55 or 375 win would be my choice there ....... Granted those are harder to come by and pretty much a hand loader only proposition at this point.
The throw of a lever on BLR interferes with a projection of an extended magazine. Even a 10-rounder of an AR does not fit.
I was thinkin more from a manufacturing standpoint not a conversion, the short action BLR is set up for 308 length rounds and uses an AR10 size magazine. If we're making it for AR15 class rounds there's no reason you couldn't use the 1/2" ish shorter AR15 magazine and move the back of the mag forward to clear the lever. You could also shorten the bolt movement 1/2" and decrease the lever movement.
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