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Lightweight snubbies

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Godsgunman, Jan 29, 2013.

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  1. Sergei Mosin

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    If a rimfire is the only option, a revolver is better than an automatic. When (not if) a rimfire cartridge fails to ignite, the revolver shooter can get back into action by pulling the trigger again. The automatic shooter has to go through the tap, rack, bang clearance drill.
     
  2. David E

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    If someone's best option is a rimfire, that usually means there's a physical
    limitation. I looked at the Ruger LCR in .22 magnum today and tried the trigger pull. My MIL wouldn't be able to pull it. If she could, there's no telling where the shot would go.

    Contrast that with the easy pull of a Ruger Standard .22 semi-auto. She can work the bolt easily, wipe the safety off effortlessly and can dump the magazine into the center of any badguy foolish enough to attack her.

    As long as premium ammo is used (and I regard CCI Mini-Mags and Stingers as premium) failures to fire in a clean, well maintained gun are exceedingly rare. In the 1000's of CCI rounds I've fired, I can't recall any failure to fire. Bulk pack, that's another matter entirely. Which is why I don't use bulk .22 ammo when it matters.
     
  3. Old Fuff

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    If you are going to carry the Ruger .22 Standard Pistol or any variant thereof, with a loaded chamber, keep in mind that there is no safety ledge or notch on the hammer face to catch the hammer if it follows down. That, and the manual safety that blocks the sear is a press-punch stamping. I consider these pistols to b an excellent choice for sport shooting of all kinds, but if they are to be carried it is wise to do so with the chamber empty. :uhoh:
     
  4. David E

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    Having fired 1000's and 1000's of rounds without incident and never having heard of an issue of the type mentioned, save for idle speculation of what maybe possibly could happen, but no specific instances cited, I'd have no trouble carrying a Ruger .22 pistol with the chamber loaded.
     
  5. Old Fuff

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    Many people have fired thousands of rounds through Ruger .22 pistols with no problems, but the issue here is how safe are they to carry with the chamber loaded. My point was to warn users that if - for any reason - the hammer should fall there is nothing to stop it, and the firing pin is not blocked or locked by any mechanical safety or device. If you chamber a round there is no way to lower the hammer from the full-cock position.

    A decision on how to carry any handgun is up to the user, and anyone can do what ever they want to. However such decisions are best made from an informed perspective. In this instance, ignorance should not be bliss.
     
  6. 303tom

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    Here is my favorite, hard to get much lighter & 9 rounds too...............
     
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  7. David E

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    Your assertion that it's unsafe is curious. The safety positively locks the sear. You cite that it's a stamped out part and therefore incapable of safely performing the task it was specifically designed to do. The Glock has several key fire control parts that are "stamped sheet metal," but no concerns about them are raised.

    The M1A/M14 utilizes a "stamped sheet metal" part that is the safety, that again, presents no problems, even tho you can't lower the hammer.

    You cite the absence of a 1/2 cock notch means its therefore unsafe to carry chamber loaded, but I bet you and 10's of 1000's of other people carry a shotgun with the chamber loaded while hunting, with the safety applied that merely prevents the trigger from moving. Many, if not 99% of them, have no 1/2 cock notch, and you can't lower the hammer, either.

    If you have an actual, specific example of the Ruger safety failing, I'd love to read about it.
     
  8. Old Fuff

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    Having posted a warning and an explanation, I have no desire to belabor the point. I will again point out:

    Now I believe this thread is supposed to be about revolvers...
     
  9. MCMXI

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    Seriously? I find the Alaskan a joy to shoot even with hot/heavy loads.
     
  10. David E

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    You don't want to belabor the point, then do!

    Fuff, I love ya, man, but I sure can't see any pertinence in your last few posts.

    Getting back on topic, I shot two .410 revolvers today, an Ultra-Lite Judge 3" and a stainless Public Defender 2" snub for a review for a radio segment.

    One thing we've started to do is hit the 100 yd steel target. We've made hits with everything so far, including sightless .22 and .25 pocket guns.

    These guns were the first ones we couldn't hit with. One shot was 10 feet left, the next 4 feet right hitting low at 80 yds.

    Long story short, we determined that for an anti-carjacking gun or for snakes, they're great. For an all around defense gun, not so much.
     
  11. Old Fuff

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    Then we agree on something... :D:
     
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