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Limp-Wristing and the Glock

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Kukri, Dec 30, 2002.

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  1. Kukri

    Kukri Member

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    Has anybody had any problems with their Glock and limp-wristing?
    I recently went on a shooting trip with my dad and a two other kids and an my dad's lady friend. My dad and I would shoot the Glock with no problems. When the two other kids started to pop off rounds, there would be a jam EVERYTIME they shot. The same dilemma with the lady. My dad had no idea what the problem was, but i knew exactly what it was; limp-wristing and the slide was not lubricated enough. I could replicate the results by limp wristing. The one kid was insistent it was the guns fault, but it was his. It was humorous. Anybody with this problem or have a funny story regarding a limp-wristing incident?
     
  2. Stephen A. Camp

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    Hello. I've seen the same thing happen in CHL classes and for the same reasons you mention.

    Best.
     
  3. WESHOOT2

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    DIFFERENT TAKE

    Gun-n-ammo problem, regardless of make.

    Nothing funny about it; guns must work.
    Okay, funny story (please, NOT picking on Glock).

    Friend, Glock, IPSC. Big bragging friend "Glocks are perfect, never jam, yada yada", you (may) know the type.
    Match, outdoors, cold, cold rain.
    Limp-wrist city.
    He nearly cried (actual crying). Tears.

    Still laughing.

    TIP: for those with 'wrist' trouble, try 'spicier' ammo.
     
  4. sm

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    I'm with Mr. Camp and WS2
    seen it, ain't funny when its a CCW , spicy ammo and practice practice practice.

    I've had people show up with one because of XYZ reason .
    I recommend new shooters NOT buy anything, especially a CCW until instructed and tried platforms first.

    never know might be MY six they cover...
     
  5. PATH

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    I have heard about the limp wristing problem but I have yet to see it at the range.
     
  6. HSMITH

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    The glock 17 I had was nearly jam proof, you could really noodle wrist it and it would cycle but I used nato ammo only in it.
     
  7. pax

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    Never had a problem with my G26, but then, I keep my slide lubed.

    pax

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  8. Kevlarman

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    I've only had 1 malfunction with my G30, and that was on the very first day that I got it. I was shooting S&B hardball, and one round failed to feed properly. Tap, rack, and bang!
     
  9. Phyphor

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    I've only had a few problems with my Glock 19, but ONLY because that poor bastard had to handle my crap reloads, as I was learning how to reload.

    With factory ammo or with my current loads, it eats rounds for breakfast and begs for more.
     
  10. Kahr carrier

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    Havent seen the limp wristing problem in the Glock yet .I have seen some of the guys at the range shoot them different ways ,some hold them sideways and even one was holding a Glock upside down and shooting it with no jams .Personally I think some of these guys watch to many movies ,but no jams.;)
     
  11. WESHOOT2

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    GLOCK OWNERS RELAX!

    NOT bashing Glock, just telling funny story.

    I've seen EVERY brand (well, maybe not everybrandinthewholewideworld) succumb to limp wrist.

    IMNSHO, should NEVER be a 'lubed or not" issue, unless dancing with sand, etc.; IMNSHO most commonly "ammo spiciness" woe. (Spicy enough to push the slide back far enough regardless; not so spicy as to beat the mag spring).

    Auto-feeders used for social work MUST be reliable regardless of grip and/or firing position.
    Testing required. Like sideways, upside down, 'movie' grip.........
     
  12. Bainx

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    Yup, the only two failures my Glock 30 has had was limp wristing
    by a nephew. I watch him shoot and he absolutley squeezes the life out of the gun. I don't understand how he makes it choke.
     
  13. HSMITH

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    Re: GLOCK OWNERS RELAX!

    Got to agree with you.

    Never lubed my glock at all in all the time I had it, nor do I lube a carry/house gun. Tested EVERY auto I have had in any possible orientation as soon as they had a few break-in rounds through them. Glocks and Sigs do very well at odd angles, so far my beloved 1911's are hit and miss out of the box but tuned easily. Most all semi-auto pistols will balk regularly if limp wristed too.

    LOL@everybrandinthewholewideworld, I like that.
     
  14. Erik

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    Weshoot2,
    I liked the 'everybrandinthewholewideworld' disclaimer,too. ;)

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    Limpwristing - something that can happen with any pistol, and in particular any polymer framed ones, from what I have seen. Solution? Stronger wrists and/or a conscious effort, of course.
     
  15. Maddock

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    My experience parallels that of WESHOOT2. I’ve seen a number of different recoil operated autos short-stroke. One of the most common is “action pistol†1911s that have a stiffer than stock recoil spring while using loads that have less recoil impulse than ball. Replace the standard 16lb. spring with an 18½ lb. spring (16% increase), then reduce the load from the standard 230gr. @ 830fps (“power factor†191) to a tailored match-load with a factor of 175-180 (a 5-8% decrease) add in a less than perfectly locked in grip and stance, and you’re operating at the edge of function.
    Exactly right! My standard on a semi-auto carried for defense is fifty rounds fired weak hand only using just the thumb and forefinger with my arm as relaxed as I can manage. I may not be in the best of shape when I need to use a handgun in self-defense. Of course ALL my revolvers pass this test.:D

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    My sister-in-law just rec'd her first handgun for Christmas - a G26. She's a naturally good shot, but does limp wrist while shooting one-handed. This is completely operator error, and will disappear with more practice.

    Her employer will not allow her to carry at work, but her manager carries discreetly using an ankle holster. My sis-in-law doesn't know if she can conceal her G26 during the work day, but is testing Oleg's P32 for pocket carry purposes. I'd rather my 2 year old niece have a fired momma than a dead momma.
     
  17. Tamara

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    Mine have all worked even with a two-fingered grip, but then again, all my Glocks have been .357SIG/.40/10mm/.45 ACP. Never had a problem with limp-wristing on any of the 9mm Glocks I've shot, but I've never really tried to induce a problem with them, either.
     
  18. sm

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    I'm with WS2-and others.
    I've seen guns that didn't fit shooter, limpwrist sure , also seen revos because of fit not a good choice for a particular shooter for CCW.

    I don't have a problem with limpwristing a Glock, for ME the fit isn't there, prefer something else for ME.

    Good point made above. If it ain't broke don't fix it. If gun fits and ammo works, gun reliable, and accurate...why "goop it up", change springs, ammo...etc.

    My guns are stock, fit me via grips etc. trigger smooth (1911 4# crisp for example) Good ammo, and I've done weird things to test me the guns and ammo in all types of situations.

    mags still won't drop "up" tho ;)
     
  19. triggertime

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    Personally, I've never experienced any problems with limp wristing. But from what I have seen, Glocks chambered in 9mm are more susceptible to it than those chambered in other calibers.
     
  20. Mr. Hankey

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    I've got 3 glocks in 9mm, a 17 a 19 and a 26 never had a problem with any of them.

    I hear of this problem frequently, but I've never witnessed it.

    The club I belong to, rents Glocks, so I've seen a lot of new shooters using them. But have yet to see one fail.

    And being rentals, they are not maintained as well as they should be. But they keep on ticking.
     
  21. Shmackey

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    If you know someone's got a limp-wristing issue, wouldn't a lighter recoil spring in the gun better allow the slide to cycle fully?
     
  22. WESHOOT2

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    YES

    But then you gottanot beat the mag spring.

    Synergy..........
     
  23. Shmackey

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    WESHOOT2, could you explain that? How's the mag spring involved?

    I've thought for a while that recoil springs can be matched to the shooter's ability to keep the gun in the same place--or not.
     
  24. 556A2

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    The very 1st time I shot a Glock 17 it jammed on me due to limp wristing, but I have never had any problems with Glocks or any other semi-autos since then.
     
  25. WESHOOT2

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    COITENLY

    If you speed up the slide too much (lighter recoil spring) the mag spring may not be able to force the (next) round up in time.

    Make sense?
     
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