Tuner ~
The little bit of progress we made in the other thread came from realizing that "limp wrist" isn't one thing, it's several. It's a catch-all phrase.
An example: Even a perfectly-tuned 1911 will malf if you shoot high thumbs and press the thumbs hard against the slide, retarding its action. But when the actual problem goes undiagnosed, that can be called "limp wristing" because it is a shooter-induced malfunction of the gun, and because if anyone else picks that gun up to shoot it, it will function without a burp.
I've seen young, brand-new shooters who had a very interesting and unusual flinch pattern -- almost a two-stage flinch that looks something like the old cowboy movies where the shooter tries to "throw" the bullets downrange with the barrel of the gun. I think that one is caused by too much playing with toys guns as a child. That weird two-stage thing sometimes results in malfs. I can't actually do it, so couldn't demonstrate it for anyone else, but I've seen it done with a gun that otherwise functioned flawlessly. All it takes to fix it is convincing the newbie not to "make" the gun fire ... and it is such an egregious and easily fixed error that after firing a half-dozen rounds correctly, he'll probably never even be able to do it wrong again.
As I said long ago in that other thread, I really don't understand all the emotion about this. It takes only two seconds to teach someone to keep their wrists straight and to make sure their fingers are not retarding the slide action. It costs nothing and can be done right there on the range when the problem crops up. And if it doesn't work, or if the problem crops up again, the gun can easily be brought to a smith for a tune up.
Why not go for the fast, free fix before suggesting people try a slow and expensive one? Why all the emotion?
pax
The little bit of progress we made in the other thread came from realizing that "limp wrist" isn't one thing, it's several. It's a catch-all phrase.
An example: Even a perfectly-tuned 1911 will malf if you shoot high thumbs and press the thumbs hard against the slide, retarding its action. But when the actual problem goes undiagnosed, that can be called "limp wristing" because it is a shooter-induced malfunction of the gun, and because if anyone else picks that gun up to shoot it, it will function without a burp.
I've seen young, brand-new shooters who had a very interesting and unusual flinch pattern -- almost a two-stage flinch that looks something like the old cowboy movies where the shooter tries to "throw" the bullets downrange with the barrel of the gun. I think that one is caused by too much playing with toys guns as a child. That weird two-stage thing sometimes results in malfs. I can't actually do it, so couldn't demonstrate it for anyone else, but I've seen it done with a gun that otherwise functioned flawlessly. All it takes to fix it is convincing the newbie not to "make" the gun fire ... and it is such an egregious and easily fixed error that after firing a half-dozen rounds correctly, he'll probably never even be able to do it wrong again.
As I said long ago in that other thread, I really don't understand all the emotion about this. It takes only two seconds to teach someone to keep their wrists straight and to make sure their fingers are not retarding the slide action. It costs nothing and can be done right there on the range when the problem crops up. And if it doesn't work, or if the problem crops up again, the gun can easily be brought to a smith for a tune up.
Why not go for the fast, free fix before suggesting people try a slow and expensive one? Why all the emotion?
pax