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Little Disappointed With My Ruger

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Speedo66, Aug 14, 2013.

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  1. Speedo66

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    I carried a concealed Glock as a service weapon for many years, subject to sweat, etc. Off duty in an inside waistband holster. Never a pinpoint of rust on it. Just took usual care, nothing special.

    I now carry, rarely, a Ruger LCP which has developed some rust on the slide. I am less than thrilled with this development. The coating on both slides look similar, but obviously, the Ruger is not up to the Glock's standard.

    Not trying to start a brand war, it just is what it is. Little PO'ed about this.
     
  2. horsemen61

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    Your right a glock and a ruger don't have the same finish the glocks is more durable IMHO.
     
  3. Deus Machina

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    Ruger's slides are blued. It's basically just coloring the steel and has only modest anti-corrosion properties because it's a controlled oxidation on its own.

    Glock's tennifer process case-hardens and changes the chemical composition of a relatively thick layer.

    It's not that Ruger does it any worse, it's just not at all the same process.
     
  4. ritepath

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    One of my kids sprayed me with water last year...a few days later I noticed specs of rust on the serrations on my slide.

    I showed it to my son and said..."See you made it rust just like I said." then I rubbed it off and put it back in it's fobus holster. If I sweat I'll give it a slight rubdown before putting it in the safe at night these days.
     
  5. Blue Brick

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    Guns require maintenance, like wiping it off with oil.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your trouble with the rust and thanks for letting me know about the Ruger. Hope you can polish the rust off without too much damage. I won't own a Glock, but now I know that an LCP might need a lot of attention if I choose to try and carry one here in the deep south. I'm amazed Ruger doesn't make a stainless version - they do for almost everything else.
     
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    Glock = $500, Ruger LCP = $250. Not as tough as a finish you say? Keep oiled and wiped down, all will be fine. Had mine since they came out. Carry it daily, not one bit of rust.
     
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    Huh...that's funny. Google "stainless LCP" and there's pics of em. Guess my eyes are playing tricks on me.
     
  9. Deaf Smith

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    I've heard floor wax works well on slides to keep them from rusting.

    Never tried it myself though.

    Deaf
     
  10. Dentite

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    Dan-O:

    As I understand it, the slide that appears to be stainless is actually a hard chrome finish over the carbon steel slide.

    I've had to LCPs and no rust but I live in a dry climate.
     
  11. CDawg

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    Try "Renaissance Wax" on your carry guns. It works! Museums use it on everything, including firearms. Hell, they even use it on outdoor statues to keep them from weathering. It leaves a very thin, invisible protective coating that will not hurt your firearm in any way. Sounds too good to be true, right? Believe it! It's not cheap, but it's worth it. A little goes a very long way.
     
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    Bluing is basically a "rusting" process that basically leaves you with various colors of bare metal. You have to wipe it down periodically with an oily cloth, silicon cloth or some such rust preventive.

    That's always been a requirement of carbon steel with no surface protection finish.
     
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    Ok if you got all black version the slide oxidizes easily plus slide closes after last empty casing leaves the chamber. Glock product is big notch above any pistol Strum & Ruger makes that is why militaries and PDs all over the world use Glocks not Rugers.
     
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    For maintaining the surfaces of all of my blued steel firearms, CorrosionX has served me without fail as my go-to maintainence product.
     
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    I've had my KT p3at sweat on ,and rained on more times than I can count. I've never had a speck of rust on it. I'm not sure why this would happen to your Ruger LCP.
     
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    Since bluing can readily show signs of wear and surface rust I would recommend getting the slide hard chrome plated. I have guns that were hard chromed (Metalife by Ron Mahovsky),and they still have yet to show any sort of surface wear or corrosion after 20 plus years of use.
     
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    Of all my carry pistols, my LCP is the one that I'm least concerned about the finish. Mine has developed a bit of surface rust that I easily wiped off from time to time. That said, the slide has a few scratches and the frame has a couple dings from being taken in and out my pocket, etc. However it is clean and lubed and 100% functional.

    No it doesn't hold up like my Glock, but for sub $300 I'm willing to put up with a bit more required maintenance.
     
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    I think the heavy use of Glock firearms you cite is more about their highly-successful marketing strategies than so much about the guns themselves. While they are likely great weapons, Glock has the high-volume output needed to offer mass-purchase discounts and high-dollar marketing campaigns with which Ruger cannot compete. I don't think they are even trying much to.

    Regarding rust, my Kel-Tec PF9's blued slide did, too. I replaced it with a hard-chrome one, which is keeping the rust at bay for now.
     
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    Ruger can produce at a volume exceeding Glock. Don't have the stats handy but Ruger produces more firearms than any other manufacture in the country (even when you include the other guys importing firearms rather than producing them domestically).

    The simple fact of the matter is that Ruger simply hasn't heavily pursued military or law enforcement contracts. They make the majority of their money selling to civilians. Glock does too mind you, but they tend to use law enforcement sales as a marketing technique. They sell to LE at deeply discounted prices so civilians will buy one on the premise that "It's what all the cops use so it must be good.".

    Just two different approaches from the companies. Glock really doesn't have any competitor to the LCP. Ruger's SR9 guns are closer to Glock's offerings and are all stainless or blackened stainless slides which are just as rust resistant as any Glock (and just as high quality).

    I own and shoot both Rugers and Glocks, and honestly the Rugers are every bit the gun the Glock is at about 15-20% less money.
     
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    Wayyyyyyy not true. Read "Ruger and his guns"
     
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    That book is 17 years old. Bill Ruger himself has been dead for 11 years. Trust me the Ruger of today is a different company, with a vastly different direction than what the old man wanted. If he was still kicking we'd still probably be getting 10 round mags with the P95 (doubt the SR9 would even exist).
     
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    I am a noted Ruger fan, but I am gonna say this as a unbiased mod: the second this turns into a discussion about Bill Ruger and what he said and did lo those many years ago, this thread will get locked. As mentioned, Ruger is not the same company today, with the obvious proof being in both the product line and management. Its not because I disagree with the opinion, its because that opinion as a point of discussion is meaningless given Rugers distinct (and welcome by most) philosophical and product line changes in the many years since Ruger himself died.

    sent from my Galaxy Note II.
     
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    You're PO'd because you didn't realize there was a difference in required maintenance between tenifer and bluing? I'd say you've got a valid gripe, but not against Ruger.

    Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Yet there are those gnashing at the bit to do just that.:rolleyes:
     
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