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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by gilbolter@live.com, Mar 11, 2012.

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  1. gilbolter@live.com

    gilbolter@live.com Member

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    is it harmfull to keep a mag loaded full time?
     
  2. chevyforlife21

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    A good practice is to keep it 10 percent less then full so 9 rounds in a 10 rounder or 27 in a 30
     
  3. Iramo94

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    If a spring is compressed to less than a certain critical point, it can stay there for a long time without deforming. I would imagine that mag springs are designed so stay within thT range under any load. So I'd say no. The bad thing is loading and unloading them a lot. That causes internal friction in the spring, which causes wear. That's why I use different mags for fun and business.
     
  4. Redlg155

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    I have never had a problem keeping mine loaded to full capacity. At one time it was conventional wisdom in the military to underload a 30rd mag by 1 round, but I look it at this way. Most designers intentionally leave some room to avoid full compression of the spring. Just check a loaded mag and I would bet that you can push the top round down a bit.
     
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    I have a few ar 10 rounders that don't even like to accept 10 completely no spring travel left
     
  6. The Lone Haranguer

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    The magazine spring fatigues through use, i.e., firing the gun, not from simply being compressed, even over a long period of time. If you put your car in storage for several years, you don't come back to find it "pancaked" on the ground. ;)
     
  7. brboyer

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    Perfectly fine with a normal quality mag.
     
  8. M2 Carbine

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    A good magazine, NO.
    A poor quality magazine, YES.


    The most extreme example I know of is a fully loaded military 1911 magazine that was given to me in 1961. The owner's Grandfather brought it home from WWI. The magazine had remained loaded all those years (don't know what became of the Grandfather's WWI 1911).

    I just had to see if the old ammo would shoot, and it did but it was too weak to begin to work my 1911 slide.

    The magazine spring seemed as strong as my other 1911 magazines. I lost track of which mag was the old one and now it is mixed up with my other 1911 magazines and still works fine.


    I leave many different magazines loaded for years, even in my cars 24/7 in the Texas heat. Never had the first bit of trouble.


    I did have a SKS rifle magazine spring go bad (weak) after several years being loaded.
     
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    Springs in general will experience "sag" as they age and go through range of movement and heat cycles. In the "old days" it was common knowledge that loaded mags would "take a set" and springs would weaken over time. I never experienced this myself, and i'm pretty sure that modern, decent quality mags don't care one way or the other. Out of learned habit, however, I keep most of my mags unloaded, and rotate, on occasion, which ones ARE loaded...usually after shooting empty the ones that WERE loaded. I figure even if they do take a set, it will happen so slowly and consistently through my whole collection of mags that i won't see failures in my lifetime.

    My experience has been, however, that bad mags start out bad.
     
  10. Creature

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    I consider this an uninformed and bad practice.
     
  11. Robert

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    Um ok. Care to explain why you feel that way?
     
  12. holdencm9

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    It is bad advice because the benefit of maybe getting longer life out of a magazine is far outweighed by having 10% fewer rounds.

    My materials science class I learned that the number of load cycles is what fatigues metal, and the number of allowable cycles increases as the compression decreases. If the mag & spring are designed properly it should be able to take a full load and be just fine.
     
  13. btg3

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    ^^^^ +1 Yup!
     
  14. Creature

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    Bad practice because the potential cost tactically of one less cartridge does not outweigh the benefit of possibly extending the life of the magazine spring.

    Uninformed because modern spring steel, which has been explained ad nauseam for many years by fairly qualified experts here on this and other forums, is less susceptible to "spring set" or weakening.
     
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    no, i've shot a mag. Thats been loaded for over 8 years and no problem. Thats my experience but others may have a different story
     
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    Some of the cheaper mags will not insert on a closed bolt and some will have feed lips spread. I have neve had a failure due to compression.
     
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    I had an old Jennings .380 that sat forgotten about in a tool box in the garage for 8+ years. It was loaded full mag + 1 in the chamber. Just for grins I took it out and all 7 rounds fired fine (two or three mags without a failure is about the best it could ever do) so if a Jennings mag has no problem sitting unloaded, I just wouldn't worry about it!
     
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    I agree in reducing rounds, esp. in hi cap.Newer springs do better than older ones. 30 yr. and older have more chance of losing tension. Do not leave 1906 colt orig mag loaded full.
     
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    I keep all mags loaded. I have for years. I have not noticed any ill effects.
     
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    I keep some in just about every magazine I have..............
     
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    Not unless the spring is defective to begin with. Normally, the springs in magazines fatigue through cycling (compressing and expanding), not from just sitting in compression. I have kept factory mags loaded for extended periods of time with no obvious problems.
     
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