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Loading cast 30-30s

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by The Kidd, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. The Kidd

    The Kidd Member

    Mar 21, 2003
    Hello, I have recently started casting some of my own bullets as a natural outgrowth of reloading. (OK I'm late to the dance 'cause it's getting hard to get free or even cheap wheel wts) Any way... I have cast and am ready to load some 150gr, .309, gas checked, 30-30s. I have RCBS Cast Bullet Manual #1 and they list 10-12 gr of Unique or 27-29 gr IMR 4895. I would like some of you more experienced reloaders to advise. I have either powder and may end up trying both I just want to see if anyone has already evaluated these. This is for a Winchester '94 made in mid 70s. I really would like to get this set up and ready for deer season this year.
  2. jaysouth

    jaysouth Senior Member

    Sep 1, 2003
    Middle Tennessee
    Do you plan to hunt?

    Or is this for range work only?

    The best 150 yard hunting load for me is a cast gas checked bullet going 1,700 to 1,800 fps. As a rule, the slower burning powder will give best results. Save the Unique/Red Dot/Bullseye for 1,200 fps target or plinking loads.

    I am not familiar with the RCBS cast bullet manual but have a Lyman Cast manual that is my constant reference.

    Check out this forum: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forum.php

    Be careful, this site could subsume your soul. LOL
  3. jim in Anchorage

    jim in Anchorage Senior Member

    Feb 28, 2009
    ^^^^ I agree 100% with above. When I first started loading cast bullets in my 30-06 I was using fast powder like 700x. Terrible results. When I switched to 4198 it was amazing, went from 12" to 1/2" groups at 50 yards.
  4. beefyz

    beefyz Member

    Nov 12, 2009
    70s winny '94 same for me. GREAT gun for cast. found mine did a bit better going to .310 with/GC. without a GC stick to <1,500 fps. mine also liked the 170/173 GC combo better and I doubt you will be able to develop a better hunting load anywhere else for this rifle.
    I know your stated goal is hunting but for a real hoot and some plinking rounds try 6-7 grs of unique under those boolits. everyone around you may start screaming that you just fired a squib but you'll be laughing like **** with some good results.
  5. 243winxb

    243winxb Senior Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Hopewell Big Woods
    IMR 4895-27.5gr -173 gr GC-1500fps is what i cast/loaded in 30-30 Velocity was out of a 10" barrel T/C. I didnt check it in the M94. Would be higher, i guess.
  6. loose noose

    loose noose Senior Member

    Feb 22, 2012
    Southern Nevada
    I re-size all my 170/70% Linotype bullets to .310 GC, I use a hard lube (Blue Magic?) and 24.0 grains of 2230C with a WW primer RP cases, I resize the cases to 2.032, with an OAL 2.452. I've found these to be very accurate in my ballard rifled Marlin. MOA at 100 yards.
  7. GooseGestapo

    GooseGestapo Senior Member

    Jan 6, 2003
    I've gone to a .311" sizing for all my .30cal uses.
    For the .30/30, which is probably the best cast-bullet cartridge of all times; I prefer the very first bullet I ever cast. The Lee .309 FNGC. It casts to about .312". I size and lube them with either SPG or 50/50 Alox=Bees Wax lube.
    The .311" works with every .30cal rifle I have and gives best accuracy from a Marlin Micro-Groove barrel. Keeps from having so many different sizes.

    Most any typical powder for the .30/30 will work fine. I happen to use RL15 in many other applications, so I use it here too.
    30.0gr will deliver about 2,200fps and superlative accuracy.
    28.0gr of H4895 or IMR3031 also works really well.

    Do be sure to adequately flare the neck. I also use a Lee factory crimp die to crimp the brass.
    Do sort brass by headstamp, trim to minimum specs, and use a Federal or Winchester Large rifle primer.

    The Lee 170gr FNGC also works well. For a lighter than typical bullet, the Lee 120gr RNGC also works well. Loaded over 10.0gr of Unique, it's a plinking delight...

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