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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Howland937, Sep 18, 2020.

  1. Reeferman

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    Just a heads up you may or may not have to tweak the timing. All my shell plates worked fine with the o-ring except for #32 for 45 Colt. It worked ok with the spring but I had to adjust timing to get it to work ok not perfect. Finally called Hornady and they sent me new #32 plate and it works fine now like all others.
    For me the biggest fix was polishing all the shell plates where the spring rides especially at each case cutout. It knock down all the sharp edges.
    Not sure if you read that thread by Vince at Enos’s sight I posted but it is a good read on using it. I know some don’t get bothered by using a kinked spring but if you are using a case feeder it really causes issues.
     
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    disregard
     
  3. lordpaxman

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    Add a light so you can see inside the shell cases. I used Hornady’s, actually I put two on just to see better. You always want to visually check there’s powder in the case before seating a bullet.
    Others have given some good tips, but the basic LNL will function ok. There’s a lot to running a progressive press that’s just a learning curve. My son just got one and just observing him I was able to tell it took some rounds before he became consistent on the down and up stroke.
    One other thing, keep a can of compressed air nearby - you can blow off powder grains or other flotsam and jetsam before it gets into the works! Good luck.
     
  4. Reeferman

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    I bought the Inline Fabrication light setup for my LNL and works well. But f I would have seen the KMS UFO light system first I would have gotten it instead. Or you can make or use any of the many other options out there but definitely look at these two especially the KMS.
     
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    Sort of off thread but
    Guys, so far I have seen both 2mmX69mm and 2.5mmX69mm suggested.
    Some comments in the Brian Enos thread about having to resize detents with the 2.5s.
    Does using the 2mm ones prevent having do do this?
     
  7. dwstone1227

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    I just replaced my Hornady metal spring with the 2.5 x 69 mm O ring from McMasters. I ordered 2 packs of 10 for a total of 20 - O rings at a total cost with shipping of about $20.00. Roughly $1.00 per O ring. Today I loaded 50 rounds of 9 mm. All went very well. The O ring change did eliminate the shake powder out issue significantly. It simply rotates smoother which is better. I’m now a firm believer in O rings over Hornady rings. I’m not sure why Hornady doesn’t use O rings.

    Thanks Reeferman for this suggestion.
     
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  8. Crazy Horse

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    That's good to hear. My shipment should be in this weekend.
     
  9. Crunchy Frog

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    Like you, I use my LNL-AP primarily for straight wall pistol cartridges. I recommend the RCBS Lockout Die.

    Polish the primer shuttles and clean the priming parts often. Tolerances are tight and it doesn’t take much grit or unburned powder to make something hang up. It will wear in over time and be less sensitive.

    I added the Ultramount and Ergo Handle. It made the press more stable. It runs better.

    Buy a Quick Change Powder Die assembly for each cartridge. Set them up once and label them.

    The cheapest source of bushings is to buy the conversion kit designed for the Rockchucker. Get the one sold by Cabelas-it comes with six bushings. Put the conversion bushing in your Rockchucker or give it away.
     
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  11. Reeferman

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    Thanks needs to go to Vince on Enos sight. One thing I found was I have to lube the o-ring again after awhile.
     
  12. Dudedog
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    Yes, the lockout die is money well spent IMO
    If it never locks you wonder why you spent the money for it, if it does you are happy you did.
    With my WSF load in 9mm it will catch anything off by about .2gr.
    Doubles and none every time.

    https://ultimatereloader.com/2010/09/19/rcbs-lock-out-die-part-i-theory-of-operation/

    https://ultimatereloader.com/2010/09/21/rcbs-lock-out-die-part-ii-setup-and-maintenance/
     
  13. Crazy Horse

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    Reeferman,
    I just got my rubber rings. I tried it with my Shell #10 plate. The only issue I have is with the ejection of the case. The rubber ring doesn't seem to be going down far enough to release the case. I sanded down the whole plate area but it still is hit and miss on releasing the case. I also sanded the plate, but the case still hangs. Any recommendations. ie lube the ring? TIA

    CH
     
  14. Reeferman

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    What are you using for lube? I use Hornady Unique case lube but any will work as well as lanolin. I use about the same amount as I would use on a case. You have to lube the o-ring but do not use any gun oil.
     
  15. Crazy Horse

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    I use hornady case lube. I'll make sure to try that. It seemed like it needed some type of lube, but I didn't want to get it all greasy with general purpose grease. Thanks.

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  16. Reeferman

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    Using the o-ring will not work unless you lube it. Also you must lube it if not using the press for awhile. The lanolin will dry and cause the issue you are having. Just touch your finger to the lube and rub the o-ring all around. You don’t need much.
     
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  17. Crazy Horse

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    Reeferman,

    I did as you said and rubbed a bit of case lube on the rubber ring. It didn't work for the 40 S&W shell plate, but I switched to 9mm and it functions well with that shell plate. Interesting how much smoother it feels.

    I'll be trying it out with 45acp, but won't reload for that caliber for a few weeks. Still, 9mm is one of the primary calibers I load for right now, so it's good that it works with 9mm.

    Thanks for the recommendation.

    CH
     
  18. Reeferman

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    Like I said before I had the same issue with a #32 plate for 45 Colt. The new one that Hornady sent me works ok now with a o-ring. The only way I could get it to sort of work before was to tweak the timing with the pawl adjuster. You can try that and see if it works. I don’t have a #10 so can’t try it but all my plates work with the o-ring.
    Others who are now using a o-ring did have to tweak the pawls slightly especially when using a case feeder. With mine when I do load 9mm I can load a lot faster with the o-ring as there is no powder jumping out of cases. I also didn’t have to adjust the pawl with any of mine except when using the old #32 plate.
     
  19. Crazy Horse

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    Just finished 150 9mm reloads. Rand smooth. Heck, if it works this smooth for 45acp, I'll be happy. As for the 40 S&W, I only have one, so I won't be too sad if I can't get it to work. Overall it is worthwhile and even if I have to use the metal spring retainer for the 40 S&W, it'll make it last that much longer.

    THX

    CH
     
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