Long 1911 mag?

[WestKentucky]

Going through some old stuff I ran across what very much seems to be a 1911 mag but it will not fit into my 10mm pistol. It’s too long front to back by a small margin but enough that it seems intentional. Are there long 1911 mags for something like 38 super? I remember having the same issue when I had a 45acp 1911 as well. If I can figure out what it is for I will gladly put it in the mail to someone who needs it. Again, it’s almost identical to my 10mm mags except for the front to back length. I will take a pic next time I get my hands on it.

 

[gobsauce]

When you take the picture, see if you can compare it side by side with a mag you know everything about.

 

[shoobe01]

Could be any number of things. Star P series, for example, are slightly larger so won't fit in a 1911. But lots of single stack .45 made. Sig? Astra? FEG?

Check mag latch and look real close for marks also. Maybe some hint somewhere.

 

[Demi-human]

How old is it?
Could it be a 38 Special wadcutter magazine?
Those were popular in the Wa-Bac machine times of bullseye. Rims and all.

 

[WestKentucky]

This mag is so 1911 that it’s silly but it just won’t work. The “bumper mag” is my 10mm mag.

The mag catch hole does seem to be larger

 

[Blkhrt13]

Is that a Tokarev mag?

 

[gobsauce]

Is that a Tokarev mag?

I don't think so, every Tokarev mag I've seen has the circular witness holes.

 

[Blkhrt13]

The Tokarev bullet is longer than 10mm

 

[WestKentucky]

Is that a Tokarev mag?

Not that I can match it to. The feed lips are different and the follower is very different from tokarev mags. I can’t get a decent pic of the top of it in this light.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Not that I can match it to. The feed lips are different and the follower is very different from tokarev mags. I can’t get a decent pic of the top of it in this light.

Yeah I couldn’t really see it well. I was going on you saying it was longer than a 10mm the exterior profile.

 

[gobsauce]

Standard 8 round Tokarev mag is roughly 1.47" long X 4.2" tall X .49" wide. I could also measure a CZ 52 mag, but those don't have magazine catches.

 

[Mark_Mark]

View attachment 1064066The Tokarev bullet is longer than 10mm

that Tokarev is a cool round, any modern gun shoots that?

 

[gobsauce]

that Tokarev is a cool round, any modern gun shoots that?

Zastava arms still makes the M57.

Correction, they make the M57A. As far as I can tell, it has a different firing pin system compared to both traditional Tokarev designs, and the M57 as well as a slide mounted safety.

 

[Howland937]

.45acp and 38 Super are so close in OAL that I'd be surprised if magazine was much different front to back dimensions.

Does a 10mm or 45acp fit into the mag?

 

[Demi-human]

45acp and 38 Super are so close in OAL that I'd be surprised if magazine was much different front to back dimensions.

Very true. And even the .38 Special case with wadcutters is still under a 45 Auto cartridge OAL.

Could it be a knock off Coonan 357 magazine? All the ones I’ve ever seen were silver colored though.

Where does the 10mm not fit? The rim on a 357 is .440” the 10mm .424”. Does the rib constrict the front too much?

 

[Howland937]

AutoMag?

 

[CapnMac]

The mag catch hole is an odd oblong size.
The ribs clearly suggest feeding 0.35 range ammo.

There is a possibility that is a .38acp magazine, the precursor to the .38super. And, you'd not want the latter to chamber up in the former on a per se basis.

Now, if a legit .38acp mag, it's worth quite a few kwatloos, as those are not common on the ground (and the pistols chambered for the round are often missing magazines).

 

[Reinz]

AutoMag?

The. Auto Mag is distinctive and considerably larger.

 

[gobsauce]

What about 9mm largo? Longer than 9, and I believe they made 1911 style pistols in that cartridge.

 

[Reinz]

At first I was thinking Star because they are just barely to wide, but they have a different base and follower cut out in the mag body.

Now this Llama 38 super mag is a tad too wide as well and everything seems to match up to yours except for witness holes which could have easily been changed over the years.

This 38 Super has been in my family for over 50 years.

 

[bannockburn]

Reinz

I was thinking the same thing; maybe Star or Llama as well.