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Looking for a tough .357" bullet for a 357max carbine.

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by R.W.Dale, Nov 23, 2012.

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  1. R.W.Dale

    R.W.Dale Member

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    That's maximum not magnum. Velocities will be 2400fps + for 158g bullets around 21oo for 180g projectiles.

    I know there's a 35 caliber ssp from hornady but they're not cheap and have a pretty poor BC even compared to handgun profile bullets. What I want is a close to $20 a box .357" bullet between 158 and 180g tougher than your average jhp.

    What do we know about the 158g xtp flat point, or some of the sierra jsp's?




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  2. suemarkp

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    Have you ever tried anything for the 35 Remington? You're in that velocity and performance range, but I don't know if a 358 bullet will chamber OK. If not, you could try to run them through a 357 resizer. You should be able to find cheap bullets for a 35 Rem. If you only want to spend $20/box, I hope you're thinking boxes of 50.
     
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    Speer used to have, may still have, a 357 Magnum load data in their manual for the 180 grain spire point 35 caliber rifle bullet. There was no special work was done on the bullet.

    Over all cartridge length was a bit of an issue particularly in revolvers but I have slept since I looked at that manual. I think it was Speer #9 or #10 circa 1980 or so.

    So, the 35 caliber rifle bullets may be a source to consider for 357 Maximum.
     
  4. R.W.Dale

    R.W.Dale Member

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    No per100

    35 caliber rifle bullet prices have quite honestly skyrocketed beyond the realm of being realistic.





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    Try a hardcast gas checked Keith SWC or a flat point.. about 170 grains.
    Most anything jacketed lead, the lead is dead soft. In a hard cast lead slug, the whole thing is quite hard and tough.
     
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    Midsouth has 180gr SSP BLEM bullets on sale now. 9.99/100. They shoot fine.
     
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    try the Speer 180 grain rifle bullet. at one time you could get the Remington 150 gr pointed corelokt for the 35 Remington. I don't know if that bullet is offered any more. both of these bullets are .358 but I never had any problems with them in a TC 14 inch barrel.
     
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    According to this, the .357 XTP-FPs are good to about 1800 fps.

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    The Hornady 180XTP is the most accurate in both my Maximums. But I have been having good luck working up a load with the 215grn Lyman 358627GC.
     
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    180gr WFN is my vote.
     
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    Lyman 358156 cast hard and gas checked.

    Large meplat and they seem to do very well with full throttle w296 loads in a Magnum carbine, very minimal leading sized properly and good accuracy.
     
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    If you want something besides the xtp you might try the Nosler Partition. I would bet money that they will withstand the Max.
     
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    HOLY COW!!!! R.W I had to get 500 of those too!
     
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    That is not a "tough" bullet.
     
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    Agreed, but it might be great for silhouettes and mighty cheeeap!
     
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    It is at 357 maximum speeds compared to 357 magnum revolver bullets. These are designed with maximum and 35 rem single shots in mind

    In a 35 caliber rifle cartridge no not so much.




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    What manufacturer's blems? I thought Hornady stopped making them awhile ago.
     
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    Hornady I presume being a SSP

    Midway still lists these bullets new production

    At $30 per 100




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    Midsouth doesnt advertise the bullet's maker in the blem section. I've weighed and mic'd the bullets and they are spot on. I think its a good deal. You will have to modify or buy a seater plug for these, otherwise you will deform the soft point.
     
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    Won't those get bunged up in the magazine tube?
     
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    What magazine tube?




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    I don't know. What carbine do you have?
     
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