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Looking for advice on a suppressor for .22lr...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ZombiesAhead, Feb 25, 2009.

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  1. ZombiesAhead

    ZombiesAhead Member

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    I am fairly sure I am ready to purchase a suppressor for my .22lr firearms. I understand all the legal implications and the purchasing process. I will be purchasing through a trust.

    I have used a friend's SWR Spectre extensively on my CZ-75 Kadet Kit (threaded) and a Ruger 10/22. I really like this suppressor but it may be more expensive than what I need. I figure I can get into the SWR for about $600 including tax, etc. but I'd like to save some money if possible. I do not need the .22lr full-auto capability that the Spectre is rated for. This will be used on my 10/22 and CZ Kadet Kit-equipped CZ-75 SP-01. I plan to only suppress .22lr firearms.

    Can anyone recommend a good suppressor for me? These are my criteria:

    1. Durability/Serviceability/Construction (I'd like to be able to take it apart to clean/service)
    2. Price
    3. Noise Reduction (when shot dry)
    4. Availability
    5. Weight

    Is the SWR a good choice or can I save some money with another product? Some have suggested the TAC 65 or Gemtech Outback...
     
  2. Javelin

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    My advice is not to cheap out on your suppressor. You buy once and you cry once. That is the cheapest way to do it in the NFA world.

    And with that said you will seriously enjoy the SWR Spectre.

    :)
     
  3. ZombiesAhead

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    Javelin - Thanks for the advice. I know the Spectre is a great product but it is rated for .22lr full-auto, .17HMR, and 5.7x28 (I believe). These are capabilities I just don't need. The Tac-65 is several hundred dollars cheaper and can still be taken apart.

    Suppressors seems so simple. Is a $250 suppressor really going to be that much worse than a $400+ suppressor? I am kind of light on cash but I believe a .22lr suppressor will allow me to practice much more and keep me from using up too much expensive center-fire ammunition.
     
  4. DoubleTapDrew

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    I'm happy with the TROS md-22, but I haven't shot a lot of them so I don't know how it compares side by side to others. I just know the bolt clacking on a 10/22 (with a bolt buffer) is louder than the report and you can hear the round smack the target. POI shift is negligible and accuracy is the same as without the can on (sometimes a little better but that may be the "me factor").
     

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  5. ZombiesAhead

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    Well seeing as no one has objected, I'm leaning towards the Tactical Innovations TAC-65. It is aluminum and rated for .22lr. It can be disassembled and sells for about $250. Silencer Test's chart shows it as not the quietest .22lr suppressor (compared to Spectre and Outback) but it seem pretty good.

    Anyone have experience with the TAC-65? Is it decently quiet?
     
  6. PTK

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    I have a Tac-63 that's been upgraded with -65 baffles. It's good.

    Here's a video of it on my Buckmark.

    Link
     
  7. Animal Mother

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    I know you are looking for a silencer, but have you seen what you can accomplish by just using some subsonic ammo? I picked up a few boxes to try out on my .22 pistols and rifles and its amazing how quiet the Aguila and Colibri subsonic ammo is even without a suppressor. I have air rifles that are louder. Just find a quiet brand that will feed and cycle the action and you'll save that $200 tax stamp to Uncle Sugar.

    I love the class three stuff, but its probably cheaper to stock up on subsonic ammo, unless you shoot a LOT.
     
  8. ZombiesAhead

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    Animal Mother - I have seen what I can accomplish by using subsonic ammunition and I have to say; I don't think it's very much. I regularly shoot CCI Subsonic and I still find it quite loud out of both pistol and rifle. I now only shoot CCI CB Longs unsuppressed and we screw on the Spectre when we shoot CCI Subsonic. Right now, I am left with the options of either shooting CB Longs (annoying, expensive, don't cycle) or purchasing a suppressor. Please stay on topic thx k?
     
  9. erict

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    I have an Outback II on the way. I've used my Mark II with my buddies cans and he has a Tac-65 and the Outback II. I can't tell by ear which one is the quietest but the Outback II is a little smaller and lighter so I went with it.

    I can shoot high velocity and subsonic through my pistol with no difference in sound. The high velocity will still crack from a rifle barrel but it's further down range so it's still not loud to the shooter but you have to shoot the subsonic in the rifle to achieve the same level of silence as the pistol.
     
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    It is amazing how much less noisey subsonic ammo is when shot through a silencer. There is no other way to make a gun hearing safe than to use a silencer.

    Ranb
     
  11. Izaak Walton

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    I would like to recommend that you only use a can on what it’s rated for.
    You probably know this but for safety’s sake don’t put a 22lr can on a .223.
    It will work, at least once. Then you get another one.
     
  12. Flame Red

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    I got a AAC Pilot and have been most happy with it. I use it on a S&W M41 with a custom threaded SS barrel. Squirrels are decimated.

    I wanted one for years and glad I acted pre-Obomination.

    1. Durability/Serviceability/Construction - the can itself is alumnum, but the threads are SS
    2. Price - I paid more than MSRP as I the dealer had it in stock and I did not have to wait on a Form3. I think it was like $400.
    3. Noise Reduction (when shot dry) - I don't shoot it wet - too messy!
    4. Availability - Go to a dealer that has it in stock, else you might be spending 3 months waiting for a form3.
    5. Weight - Really light - Since the M41 I have is heavy, one cannot tell any shift in weight distribution with it on or off.
     
  13. freakshow10mm

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    If you can wait a month or so to purchase, my .22 suppressor will be available for the market. Retail price is $125 shipped to your SOT.
     
  14. Zak Smith

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    My company makes two .22LR suppressors, which weigh 3.2 and 4.1 oz. There are lots of good options out there.
     
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    I've heard good things about your .22 cans.
     
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    I think the TROS is 4oz, it's aluminum with SS threads (you DONT want aluminum threads, cross threading it would be a nightmare).
    I wouldn't be overly concerned with which one is quietest. All .22lr suppressors are quiet and the db levels vary with things like elevation, weather conditions, gun used, ammo, etc.
    Especially if you are using a rifle. With a rifle you get the crack on supersonic ammo, although in short pistols (like a P22) even regular velocity ammo is usually subsonic for me.
    Sounds like someone is looking to corner the market! That's by far the cheapest I've seen for a can. Is there a spec sheet for it online somewhere?
    That wouldn't be pretty! :uhoh: You can usually go down in caliber though. YHM said shooting .223 through their .308 can is only 2db louder than their .223 can (although the can is 2" longer). I'm sure you can shoot 9mm through a .45 can. But yeah, don't put a pistol or rimfire can on something with rifle pressures.
     
  17. Javelin

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    Here is my SBR'd GSG-5 with SWR Spectre Suppressor. It is a great combination. Would recommend to anyone who wants to shoot .22LR with less noise than an air rifle.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Specs are listed on my site. 5.5" long, 1" diameter, 3 ounces is what we come up with so far. Final weight might vary a bit. All my suppressors are monolithic baffle stacks. Disassembles for cleaning. We are going to test it with running a few mags of .223 Remington at full auto and see how it holds up. Should be available March 31. Hopefully sooner.

    I'm going to have a "raffle" type deal where you can sign up and enter to win a .22 suppressor of mine for free. Just pay the transfer tax and your SOT's transfer fee. Probably going to do it once a month. Announcement will be on my site sometime in March.
     
  19. mongo4567

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    I have a YHM Mite and I love it. It is very inexpensive, small, works wells, and it disassembles so that you can clean it.
     
  20. ZombiesAhead

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    Seems like everyone loves whatever suppressor they have. If anyone has more input on the Tactical Innovations TAC-65, please post. I think this is what I'm going for because of price and availability. I'm still a little worried it won't be quite enough.

    I still really like the SWR Spectre that I've used many times but it's TWICE as expensive ($500) as the TAC-65 and only offers a bit more suppression plus support for calibers I have no interest in (5.7, .17HMR) right now.
     
  21. MatthewVanitas

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    I haven't compared the two models, but one way to look at it: I'd rather pay $200 tax on a $500 suppressor than a $250 suppressor. Further, you might not want/need a 5.7/.17 capability now, but it'd bite if you decide you want it in the future and have to go out and buy another suppressor all over again.
     
  22. mongo4567

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    The Mite is about a half inch shorter (5.3") than the TAC-65, about an ounce lighter (2.9oz), and the same price ($250).
     
  23. husbandofaromanian

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    I have a Tac-65 and I am very happy with it. I have never shot through another brand silencer, so I don't know the differences. I use a single shot Contender g2 pistol with a 10.5" barrel & my shots are VERY quiet. It sounds like you rapped an empty can of Campbells chick soup. I am about to try it with a tennis racket grip over it (what-a-grip) to see if the tin can sounds softens up a bit.

    I have shot it out in the sticks where you can here a twig break 50 yards away. Even in these conditions, it is very quiete and hearing safe (I shoot with my 2 children).

    I just bought a Gemtech .223 can but I am waiting for it to get warmer before I try it out.

    I try not to let the playground insults between some of the silencer manufacturers to interfere with my enjoyment of this hobby!:scrutiny:
     
  24. freakshow10mm

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    You think it's bad on the forums, you should get into the NFA culture as a professional. It's even worse behind the scenes.
     
  25. Prince Yamato

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    Freakshow, I know nothing about you personally, so please don't take any of this as an insult; I am really curious as to your .22 suppressor design. You have a suppressor that can be easily disassembled and it sells for under $200. That intrigues the heck out of me. Are there videos of it in operation? If this thing works as promised, you are going to be loved by the 2A community at large... and probably bashed by all the other manufacturers on Silencer Talk. :) You are a pioneer in many ways; you're making NFA items affordable to the average Joe.
     
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