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Looking for suggestions for Suppressor

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Jeff H, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. Jeff H

    Jeff H Member

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    Since the HPA isn't likely to pass, I'm Exploring the options for a suppressor for 300BLK. I know nothing about which ones are good or bad. An economically priced one that has decent performance would be ideal. Any suggestions or advice?
     
  2. Jeff H

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    One more thing, I'm assuming these just screw on where the flash hider is currently? Or do I need a barrel with different threads for the suppressor?
     
  3. Odd Job

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    It will screw onto your barrel.

    MachIVShooter is the one I would go to for advice on which one to get.
     
  4. Theohazard

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    It really depends on what else you plan to use it on (and whether you plan to shoot supersonic 300 Blackout ammo as well as subsonic). Most people have a lot more guns than they have silencers to fit them, so they tend to want their silencers to fill multiple roles. For example, most 30 caliber rifle silencers are rated for up to .300 Win Mag so you can use it on any rifle that shoots a bullet of the same or less diameter at the same or less muzzle pressure. But a heavy-duty rifle silencer is overbuilt (and therefore unnecessarily heavy) for 300 Blackout use. Also, any 9mm or .45 silencer can handle 300 Blackout subsonics (and most companies make 5/8x24 mounts for their handguns silencers for that purpose), but only a few 9mm or .45 silencers are rated for 300 Blackout supers.
     
  5. ogree

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    Usually economical means poor performance.
    Quality effective sound suppressors is going to be a bit expensive.

    If you are only going to use it on a .300 BLK or .223 Then take a look at the Griffin Recce7. It suppresses sound quite well on 5.56/.300 BLK but does produce a lot of back pressure on AR-15's as do a lot of suppressors with conventional baffles. It is rated for .300 Win. mag. but I would not personally shoot it on a .300 Mag. without some ear plugs.
    https://www.silencershop.com/griffin-armament-recce-7.html

    If you are going to be running a can on a .25 calibers (ie 25-06) up to the .300 mags. take a look at the Rugged, Silencerco, Bowers or OSS brand of cans, They are more expensive but just plain work better. The Rugged Surge is stupid quiet on a .300 RUM.

    https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/7-62mm-rifle/rugged-suppressors-surge-7-62-2.html
    https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/7-62mm-rifle/rugged-radiant-7-62.html
    https://www.silencershop.com/osilencerco-omega-7-62.html
    https://www.silencershop.com/silencerco-harvester.html
    https://www.silencershop.com/bowers-vers-30.html
    https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/7-62mm-rifle/oss-hx-qd-7-62mm.html

    Just some suggestion for you, I recommend the rifle suppressors above to our customers at the store which is based on testing out various brands and models when presented the opportunity to on site.
    It just depends on which types of guns you are going to use them on, caliber, budget, sound suppression expectations, weight requirements,,,,,,,,,,a lot of variables come in to play. I ask customers several questions and then make a suggestion but ultimately tell them to do some reading, watch some videos and then make an educated guess cause unfortunately no one has tested every type, brand and model of can out there to determine which particular one is "The Best".

    Hopes this helps get you started on figuring out which one you want.
    I tell people all the time........the hard part of buying a can, is trying to figure out which one to get.
    Good luck.
     
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  6. Gtscotty

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    Assuming you are looking for a can primarily for .300 BLK, but that could also be used on other full power rifle rounds .30 cal and under, the Energetic Armament Vox S and Dead Air Nomad 30 are newer popular options worth a look. I've been looking for my 3rd .30 cal can the past few months and settled on these two due to (more or less in order of importance):

    - relatively light weight
    - Omega pattern adapter-end threading opens up tons of different mounting options
    - short length
    - Good warranties
    - Good suppression for length
    - no minimum barrel lengths
    - high strength steel construction

    The Vox can use a wipe, and with a wipe it meters very, very well with .300 BLK Subs. The Nomad is a bit quieter all around than an un-wiped Vox. Both are rated for chamberings up to .300 WM.

    I wound up finding the Nomad for a price I couldn't pass up last weekend and went ahead and ordered.

    The TBAC Ultra series are also very nice Ti cans if you aren't looking to do mag dump after mag dump.

    I'd always advise anyone looking to get their first can to keep weight and length in mind. It's definitely worth sacrificing a few dB to get a lighter, shorter, handier can.
     
  7. bob97

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    I would suggest you think long term. What other rifles do you have? In what caliber? Do you hunt? Is it legal to hunt with a suppressor where you live? What other rifles might you buy in the future? Cans are expensive and take time to acquire, so i think its worth mapping all this out.
     
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  8. Theohazard

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    I have a bunch of silencers. I was using an AAC SDN-6 on my 8.3” 300 Blackout SBR, but at 20 oz. its way too heavy for that. You don’t need a heavy-duty silencer for just 300 Blackout. So I sold it to a friend and bought a Dead Air Nomad. It’s only 14 oz. and its shorter than the SDN-6. It’s also quieter.

    I already have a Saker 5.56 and I don’t own any short-barreled .308s, so I didn’t need a silencer designed to handle the blast from super-short barrels. I also have an Octane 9, so I didn’t need another pistol silencer. My only needs for a 30 caliber silencer was to use it on my 300 Blackout and occasionally on my .308 bolt gun. So I didn’t need a heavy-duty (and therefore heavy) silencer.

    I was looking at both the Q Trash Panda and the Dead Air Nomad, both are relatively lightweight cans that would work great for those purposes without being too heavy. I settled on the Dead Air primarily because of the various mounting options available on the Nomad: it comes as a direct-thread silencer in 5/8x24, but you can unscrew that part and screw on a quick-attach mount that will fit on a proprietary quick-attach muzzle device. (Thanks to the popularity of the SilencerCo Omega, the threads for those mounts have become an industry standard, so I don’t just have to use Dead Air’s quick-attach system, may other company’s quick-attach systems will fit also.)
     
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  9. MachIVshooter

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    What is the host? Is it only going to be used on .300 blk? Are you looking for max subsonic suppression, or are you going to also/mostly run supers? Possibly using it on other hosts?

    These are things to consider. The best can for .300 subs on a bolt gun is not optimal for supers, other rifle cartridges, and generally not ideal for use on autoloaders. Different can lengths, baffle profiles and aperture sizes are optimized for performance with a certain range of cartridges. What works best for a low pressure subsonic round doesn't do as well with high velocity cartridges. And the higher back pressure of the cans which give best muzzle suppression can result in higher dB levels at shooter's ear on autoloading guns.

    There are some solid recommendations above, but to really point you in the right direction, we'll need to know what your goals are and what cartridges & hosts it will be used on.
     
  10. Hoser

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    Whats your total budget? Dont forget about the $200 tax stamp.
     
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    When I bought my first can it was a .30 cal can for .300BLK but I went full hog since I didn't know if I would own more. I went full steel, full-auto rated. AAC 762-SDN-6. It's a good suppressor, but heavy even on my 8.5" .300BLK barrel. I would not go with the same can if I were doing it over. As far as bang for your buck I've been looking at YHM's new line of suppressors and they are very reasonably priced and seem to have really good reviews. I was thinking about getting the Turbo 5.56, but they have a .30 cal version as well.

    Ammo will be something to focus on as well, I haven't found factory (subsonic) ammo that is as quiet as the hand loads of some of my friends. Not that I'm an expert in that area but seems like rolling your own will make it even better in most cases. Good luck and enjoy.
     
  12. Jeff H

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    WOW!! There is more to consider than I thought. I figured I would just get a few suggestions and a few people arguing about how their brand is the best. Guess I need to do more homework.

    To address a few of the comments in this thread:
    gun is just a standard 16" AR 15 in 300blk. Subsonics were just for fun at the range and no other purpose. I don't hunt. 16" barrel because I didn't want to buy 2 tax stamps right away. Maybe later down the road.

    I didn't know about the 1 can for 300blk, 9mm, and 45. That would be cool and probably cover every single gun I would consider using a can on. Brand suggestions on this type would be appreciated.

    By economical, I was hoping to find one for $500ish +tax stamp. I don't know if that is reasonable or not, but $500 is a lot easier for the wife to swallow than $1000. She doesn't need to know there is a tax stamp fee. :D I can say, honey, it was $500 +tax and be perfectly honest. :D
     
  13. pdsmith505

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    Plenty of good advice above... I don't have a .30 cal can to recommend to you, since mine is a Form 1... but I'll add on this one bit of advice:

    Your above statement is probably wrong. Once you have a can, you will want one for everything. :rofl: Plan on eventually getting a rifle can, a pistol can, and a rim-fire can... eventually ;)
     
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    Also think about if you want Quick detach and if so what system. I think they just introduce another potential failure point, unless you permanently affix the specialized flash hider mounts. Also they almost double the price once you get a bunch of $100 mounts. I think it is better to just buy more cans!
     
  15. Joshua M.

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    I have a Bowers VERS458, and am very happy with everything that I have shot thru it..from .22, .243, 300 legend, 450 Bushmaster, 9mm, and 45 acp... I originally got it for my 450 for a deer gun, but have since enjoyed it on a lot of different calibers.
     
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