jmorris
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One of our buddies once told Joe no matter how many guns he had on him, he was still unarmed.
Joe and two stars, two no shoots.
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Looking for thoughts on NAA mini revolvers
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One of our buddies once told Joe no matter how many guns he had on him, he was still unarmed.
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Hillbilly Hydrographics
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One thing I will say about key holing or bullet tumble from these mini revolvers. I shoot mine regularly at 5 to 10 yards like any other handgun. I have had some tumble through the paper. But it was only with certain ammo. Like any other gun it's best to try several different types to see what works best for your gun. I have found the best performance for my 22 mag naa mini is fiocchi with the flat point. Haven't had any more key holing.
there is also a few ammo manufacturers now that are making ammo specifically made for extra short barrels.
there is also a few ammo manufacturers now that are making ammo specifically made for extra short barrels.
RevolvingGarbage
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Those little teeny .22 Short versions look like a lot of fun to mess around with. They never will because they would sell tens of them, but it would be very cool if they did a Ranger in .22 Short with a short cylinder and frame to match.
I don't know if I could resist spending what they would ask for that one.
Since I already have nearly as small of a pull-pin revolver with a double action trigger, I don't think NAA will get my money just yet. They would do well to consider copying the homework of H&R circa 1890, in my opinion.
Speedo66
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I had one, very neat, well made gun.
Found I really had no use for it and let it go.
Word of warning, I took it apart to clean pocket lint out of it, took a trip to the factory to put it back together. I admit to not being a gunsmith.
Found I really had no use for it and let it go.
Word of warning, I took it apart to clean pocket lint out of it, took a trip to the factory to put it back together. I admit to not being a gunsmith.
EMC45
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Decades ago I had a Freedom Arms "Casulls Improvement" mini revolver. It was mis-stamped at the factory, and when I inquired about the manufacture of it and the wrong stamp the lady told me the only other one that left the factory like that belonged to Dick personally and they wanted the one I had. I paid a guy I was in the Navy with 75 bucks for it. I sold it to a newly 21yo co-worker who just "had to have it" a couple years later for 200 bucks. It was pretty impractical and it was not super accurate. Fun pocket piece, and fairly collectible according to Freedom Arms. I'm not a collector so it went down the road.
mrelijahgardner
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I took one apart once. I don't really want to do it ever again. The little hand spring is not fun to get back in. Luckily I didn't need a replacement but I shot it across the room a few times. The hammer spring also takes a quite a bit off effort to get back in.
JFrame
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I have three NAAs -- the Black Widow (.22 WMR/.22LR), Earl (.22 WMR/.22LR) and Mini (.22LR).
As others have noted, the .22 WMR is LOUD. At the range, I've had people stop behind me when I'm shooting the Black Widow and say, "What IS that???" If nothing else, it might have some tertiary function as a handheld flashbang grenade...
The NAAs are well-made devices. My BW developed light primer strikes after about 400 rounds. I sent it back to NAA, with a request for a stouter mainspring, and they complied (got in back, IIRC in a week or less).
I experimented with a slew of different grip options for the BW. In terms of comfort relative to size, I decided the Pug grip suited my needs best.
For those interested, here's a ballistic test the NRA conducted of various .22 WMR loads through a number of barrel lengths, for velocity and penetration. I found the stated penetration at various pistol lengths to be eye-popping.
As others have noted, the .22 WMR is LOUD. At the range, I've had people stop behind me when I'm shooting the Black Widow and say, "What IS that???" If nothing else, it might have some tertiary function as a handheld flashbang grenade...
The NAAs are well-made devices. My BW developed light primer strikes after about 400 rounds. I sent it back to NAA, with a request for a stouter mainspring, and they complied (got in back, IIRC in a week or less).
I experimented with a slew of different grip options for the BW. In terms of comfort relative to size, I decided the Pug grip suited my needs best.
For those interested, here's a ballistic test the NRA conducted of various .22 WMR loads through a number of barrel lengths, for velocity and penetration. I found the stated penetration at various pistol lengths to be eye-popping.
I don't know if anyone remembers a picture from the BLM/George Floyd marchers. IIRC, there were folks at the outdoor tables of a restaurant. The marchers yelled at the patrons and some old guy (a Colonel Saunders type) stood up waving a NAA PUG. Some of the marchers had ARs and when he drew his gun, at least one of them chambered a round. Fortunately, PUG's wife or other woman friend dragged him inside the restaurant as he was challenging the marchers. I searched for an image but the description brought up nothing close. The algorithms aren't that smart.
trackskippy
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Sounds like some people arent either.
chicharrones
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I had a couple of them. Both had the 22 long rifle and the 22 mag cylinder. I bought several different kinds of grips so they would fit my hand a little better in shooting them. I came to the conclusion that I didn’t shoot them all that well couldn’t get them in to play all that quickly. After thinking about it if something happened and I needed a gun I don’t want that one. I can carry a J frame just as easy. I can shoot it a whole lot better. The little guns were fun to play with at the range and out in the woods, but for serious carrying I’ll take a J-Frame or Two.
I don't ride my bicycles much anymore, but if did there would be a NAA with me for dog repellant. If I remember correctly H&R marketed a small revolver as the "bicycle gun" these typically had concealed hammers.
Here it is.
https://nypost.com/2021/05/04/louisville-diner-pulls-gun-on-blm-protesters-video-shows/
If that shirt did not "have to" be tucked in he could have carried a decent gun.
But if one "has to" tuck their shirt a lowly LCP 380 in pocket would be advantageous over a NAA mini, unless one might have to dispatch a venomous snake or XL spider.
Ament to that, and will spit powder debris.
trackskippy
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Just adds insult to injury.
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I love mine. One of only a few guns I’ve bought new. I don’t carry it much these days but I do like having it. I think of it like a more versatile sort of ice pick. It would do what I need it to do if I were accosted by a mugger at close distance.
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Like this?
Ranger99
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I sure wish I had mine back.
The poeleece never recovered it,
or didn't want to give it back one
of the two.
Perfect fit in my workshirt pocket
or overall bib pocket.
Everybody warned me " Don't get
the 22 magnum ! It'll jump right
out of your hand ! "
After having one and shooting one
I knew that all those people had
never shot one, or maybe even
never handled one, and had read
that myth in a magazine somewhere
written by someone who had never
handled or shot one.
Mine wasn't really bought as a
target shooter, it was bought as
a " you're getting off me right now"
gun. That's all I'll say about that
aspect of it.
Shot a rabid skunk with it once,
and a big snapping turtle that
was nearly latched onto a friend's
dogs head.
I'd have another if I could find one
reasonable.
The poeleece never recovered it,
or didn't want to give it back one
of the two.
Perfect fit in my workshirt pocket
or overall bib pocket.
Everybody warned me " Don't get
the 22 magnum ! It'll jump right
out of your hand ! "
After having one and shooting one
I knew that all those people had
never shot one, or maybe even
never handled one, and had read
that myth in a magazine somewhere
written by someone who had never
handled or shot one.
Mine wasn't really bought as a
target shooter, it was bought as
a " you're getting off me right now"
gun. That's all I'll say about that
aspect of it.
Shot a rabid skunk with it once,
and a big snapping turtle that
was nearly latched onto a friend's
dogs head.
I'd have another if I could find one
reasonable.
Amen again. I had for awhile a SW 651 older model J frame. At 7 yards, it would leave a cloud of stuff on a paper target. Fifty rounds of 22 mag glued the cylinder shut in place. Took major blasting with cleaner and disassembly to get it running. While a pretty gun, I sold it as not really useful.
chiefs-special-guy
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I like them, but I never could hit anything with the few I've shot. Maybe that is just me.
trackskippy
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I think the issue with shooting them is, you need to take the time and fool around with them to figure them out. They are different, and the standard sights are a bit deceiving (no rear index), and they probably cause more problems than help. A simple, small bead sight would actually be better.
If you're accustomed to point shooting, I think you'll find they shoot pretty well and are a bit easier to figure out.
Unless you have the bigger, oversized grips on them, they get a "one finger" hold using your middle finger. I find it works great, especially with the rubber grip. Gun stays put with no trouble and its easy to thumb the hammer back.
If you're accustomed to point shooting, I think you'll find they shoot pretty well and are a bit easier to figure out.
Unless you have the bigger, oversized grips on them, they get a "one finger" hold using your middle finger. I find it works great, especially with the rubber grip. Gun stays put with no trouble and its easy to thumb the hammer back.
