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looking for utility rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by gascon, Nov 9, 2010.

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  1. gascon

    gascon Member

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    Hello, first time posting but have been poking around a while.
    I need to get a larger farm rifle, currently I use my BL-22 for most chores.
    We have a lot of small stock (goats, ducks, turkeys) that are attracting night visitors : coyote, fox and roaming dogs.
    This rifle needs to be no longer/heavier then 39 inches and maybe 7 pounds.
    Should hold 5 or more rounds. I do not want an AR platform, saiga, Marlin 1894, or .223. It needs to carry well, not mind getting wet and point like a shotgun. I have 8 years of AR carrying experience and don't care for its feel. I load 9mm, .38/.357, .44 and 30-06, so getting a reloading required round is not an issue. I have looked at the new production Ruger 77/44's but figured it would be too slow for serving a defensive role if need be but otherwise like it. Its primary purpose is do put down 50lb or less animals at close range with authority but it would be nice to serve against bipeds as well. Thats where I start to think Mini but I don't care for the offered chamberings. I've looked and tried to decide but need some opinions, prefer to keep price below $800, thanks

     
  2. thunder173

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    Marlin 336 in 30/30,....Winchester 94,....both Marlin and Winchester,..or even Win clones could be had in .357/.44 mag pistol caliber carbine/riflles,....the SKS in 7.62 x 39, ...the Ruger Mini Thirty or Mini 14,....all come to mind.

    I also have a Remington 7615 pump action patrol carbine in .223/5.56 that takes AR mags which would fit that bill very nicely.....but,...you mentioned no .223..........ymmv
     
  3. jon86

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    I haven't shot one, but I handled a remington 7600 30-06 carbine. It's got nice rifle sights and it's HANDY.

    OR
    12 gauge pump?
     
  4. deafdave3

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    This is what I was about to recommend.
     
  5. GMHAYESUSN

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    I would go with the remington 7600 also....ive spent some trigger time on it and its a perfect gun for what u want imho.
     
  6. Squidward

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    And it's versitile- ammo wise.

    This rifle needs to be no longer/heavier then 39 inches and maybe 7 pounds. Check.

    Should hold 5 or more rounds. Check

    It needs to carry well, not mind getting wet and point like a shotgun. Check.

    Its primary purpose is do put down 50lb or less animals at close range with authority but it would be nice to serve against bipeds as well. Check.

    I've looked and tried to decide but need some opinions, prefer to keep price below $800, thanks. Check!

    Remington 870 ! Even tough its not really a 'utility rifle'.
     
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  7. gotboostvr

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    Have you considered a M1 Carbine? They're handy as all get out and the round certainly will handle anything man-sized on down.
     
  8. 336A

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    What exactly is wrong with the Marlin 1894? It easily more than meets the criteria that you've outlined above. A 158gr JSP/HP .357 mag or a 240gr JSP/HP from a carbine would will drop any ill tempered canine with finality. Follow up shots are fast and effortless as well.
     
  9. Carne Frio

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    AK in 7.62 x 39.
     
  10. Armored farmer

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    ditto 336A
     
  11. GunTech

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    Just to be different, what about a CZ-527. Available in 22 hornet, 204 Ruger, 221 fireball, 223 and 7.62x39

    Personally, I'd look at 22 hornet/K hornet for you application. The hornet has a low report and is perfectly adequate for larger varmints. It really doesn't fit the role of SD gun against larger (2 legged) predators however, so if this is a real concern you might look elsewhere.

    The little 7.62x39 carbine is accurate, has a 5 round magazine and tips the scales at under 6 pounds. Even with an optic, it's light and handy.
     
  12. Maverick223

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    I think a 20ga. (or 12ga.) scattergun would be the best choice, but if you want a rifle (absolutely nothing wrong with that), then a M1 Carbine would be an excellent rifle for farm duty...especially for the avid handloader. A lever action .357Mag. wouldn't be a horrible choice either, but I prefer the M1 Carbine...it just fits right, and it does the loading for me! :D
     
  13. PR-NJ

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    My vote would be a Mini-30 (or 14 - cheap ammo) or a Marlin 336 30-30. You can get them in stainless, which whould be less sensitive to rain and dampness.
     
  14. 6-gunfun

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    + 1 for the marlin 336 ive got an older model and can beat the crap out of it and it will still fire with no problem and also clean up like nothing happend never jams and is accurate at around 200 yards with iron sights (depends on shooter of course)
     
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    Arsenal AK would fit the bill.
     
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    The Storm carbine in pistol cals. Short and handy. CorBon 9mm 115 grain chronoed at 1440 fps from a 16 inch barrel. Should handle a varmint. I would probably use my Ruger M77MKII scout type in 308, with a suitable handload.
     
  17. ReloaderEd

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    Utility Rifle

    A friend of mine borrowed my Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle with light weight stock. He owns a farm and has had coyote problems. They actually were coming up in his yard by the house and he has grand kids that are toddlers. The rifle has a scope mounted on the top and is very light weight. He shot at least 6 cyotes with it and then purchased his own rifle duplicating mine. He got his deer with it on his farm of coarse and is very pleased with it

    He was using my reloads with 55gr. hollowpoint Midway Dogtown bullets. Be safe . :neener:

    I know you said you didn't want the 223 Remington. However, it is one of the cheapest calibers to buy or reload and will always be available. The Ruger also comes in other calibers.
     
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  18. 52grain

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    Remington Model 7 should fit your specs.
     
  19. 52grain

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    Whoever said the 870 is on to something, but I would look for a used 870P for your purposes.
     
  20. bigfatdave

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    M1 carbine
    Pistol-caliber carbine (Hi-Point, Beretta, and Kel-Tec have good semiautos on the market, then every lever-gun maker has good ones as well)
    Shotgun with actual sights? (pick your own)

    *you're already loading 9mm and .44mag
    *you're looking for short range on smallish critters
    *you want something that can fill a defensive role as well

    If you were near me, I'd hand you my M1 Carbine, a lever-gun, and my Kel Tec sub2000 and the one you felt like carrying around all day would be the winner.
     
  21. jojo200517

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    How much of that 800 do you really wanna spend? How quick do you need to reload when those at least 10 run out? Are you wanting semi auto, pump, lever action, bolt action?

    If you want a shotgun you could get an 870 remington, mossy maverick or 500, or heck even up to the 835 for semi auto and 3.5 inch mags (probably pushing weight limit a bit there). Tons of other scatter guns in this price range but I can't really speak for all weather durability of them.

    If you are dead set on a semi auto rifle and want something cheap an SKS would serve pretty well for about 300 bucks, slower to reload with stripper clips tho. For about 390 you could go for a WASR AK-47. Higher capacity mags, quicker reloads.

    If you need more OOOMPH I suppose you could go for the AK-FPK, basically a Romanian PSL shortened and made to take standard AK stock and forearm. 10 rd mags of 7.62x54r 8lbs, 37 inches overall

    How the rifle is gonna carry is going to depend on how you carry it. If you get a decent sling anything meeting your requirements should carry pretty well, however no rifle is going to carry worth a crap while being held at arms length my the muzzle end so YMMV.

    If you wanna go with a pistol caliber carbine there is a whole array of weapons that would fit your need. Since you already reload the 9mm, how about a keltec or even a hipoint carbine, maybe even a masterpiece arms m11 mac clone in 9mm carbine version.
     
  22. stubbicatt

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    I'd vote for a rifle in 7.62x39 for what you describe. The choice of rifle would be a bit more complex as individual tastes and ergonomics play a role in such a decision. But once you settle on a cartridge that does what you want, the search for the rifle becomes a little more focused.

    The Mini 30 or an SKS would be a good choice for what you have in mind, with the Mini 30 having the advantage of being easy to put a scope on. There are other rifles chambered in this round, also. The one I think I would choose is the CZ527 Carbine. A delightful little rifle with perfect balance and very graceful lines. The trigger is just magnificent also.
     
  23. uspJ

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    If you can find one for a decent price I would go with the ruger 44 mag carbine or the mini thirty.
     
  24. loadedround

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    One of the best ultility longarms is the discontinued Savage Model 24 Rifle/shotgun. It was available in many combinations of rifle calibers and two shotgun gauges, from the 22 rf to 30-30 Win and either 410 bore or 20 ga in the shotgun barrel. All are takedowns for storage and are still plentiful on the used gun market and some really nice ones are still avaiable under 400.00. They're worth seaching for. That's my two cents worth.
     
  25. kludge

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    M1 .30 Carbine
    SKS (7.62x39)
    Ruger Deerslayer .44 Mag
    Puma 92 in .357 or .44
    Kel Tec SU-16 (I know, no .223, but it's very light and handy, and mine has been utterly reliable)
     
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