Looks like its Edwards

[targetshootr]

Edwards looks like a sloppy kisser.

I have to say I really don't care one way or the other on that point.

Kerry is pretty bad in many ways. Cheney too, Bush three. Edwards would be the best president of the lot. He's already stomping Cheney in one on one polling, which figures.

 

[The Rabbi]

You must live on Planet Chapel Hill because no one else in that state thinks like that.
Edwards is a creature of the trial lawyers, those beings that suck the blood out of American businesses. They have cost more jobs here than the Chinese could even think of. How many products have not been produced because of fear of lawsuits? How many extra steps are taken with products and services out of fear of lawsuits? Which industry has been specifically targeted by trial lawyers and which prompted an almost-succesful act of Congress to protect it? (hint: read any post on this forum).

Just like Wesley Clark, his best poll numbers came immediately after the announcement and it was downhill from there. Cheney is the best VP we have had, maybe ever, in terms of experience and judgement.

 

[targetshootr]

CNN showed a poll today concerning negative feelings people had toward certain groups like trial lawyers, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and big oil companies. Of all those, trial lawyers ranked lower (meaning better).

Don't live near Chapel Hill but I hear it's nice. My niece went their for her cleft palate surgery. Her daddy is a serious Tarheel fan.

 

[The Rabbi]

I lived there for two years.

I wouldnt believe any polling from the Communist News Network.

 

[targetshootr]

Lemme guess, Fox and Rush?

 

[The Rabbi]

I dont watch TV but do listen to the radio. The only polling data I trust is the one the morning after election day, 'cause that's the only one worth anything.

 

[targetshootr]

Gotta agree with that.

Enough folks here think the same that somehow Edwards beat the incumbent arch-consevative, Jesse Helms clone, Lauch Faircloth way back when.

 

[jAK-47]

Edwards looks like a sloppy kisser.

No wonder Massachusetts passed that gay marriage thing. Now Kerry and Edwards can share a room. It's a big bed so maybe they can invite Michael Moore-he can tape it. That's if Babs Streisand and friends can stop jumping up and down on the bed long enough to focus the camera. Of course that's IF Kerry wins...

Bush has made a lot of mistakes; he can really manage to look stupid, etc., but I don't think that Kerry will change one single thing that would have a positive affect on my life. On the other hand, Kerry may just make my GUN HOBBY more difficult to pursue.

Kerry won't or can't do anything to improve my life and he may ruin one of my hobbies. It's Bush (reluctantly) for me in the fall. I used to summer on the Vineyard and still visit but I don't remember Theresa putting me on her "A" list! And my Boston apartment isn't anywhere near Louisburg Square on Beacon Hill! And my place in Maine isn't anywhere near Walker's Point in Kennebunkport.

When it comes right down to it, most elected officials don't have anything in common with commoners; it's one of the main reasons for the mess we're in. They don't have a clue or just don't care.

Do you really think they have to skip having a medication refilled in order to eat or make the mortgage? Do they look out the window at 3pm because they're afraid their kids won't make it home from school? Kerry can't even keep the keys to his homes on the same keychain; he probably can't tell you all the complete addresses to all his (Theresa's) residences!

WHAT A FRIGGIN' JOKE! The Founding Fathers are tossing their cookies. "For the people, BUY the people..."

jAK-47

 

[targetshootr]

Gonna break the mood with a pic to show the stags I got off a Vaquero I bought at Cherry's yesterday. As good as they look, the gun (44 spl) shoots even better.

 

[fallingblock]

That's a purty set of grips, targetshootr...

Given the absolutely horrible senate voting record of Kerry when it comes to the Second Amendment,
if you plan on voting for him you better get what use out of them that you can now....

Cheney doesn't have Edwards' hair, it's true, but what else does Edwards have?

 

[DigMe]

Wow, the hits just keep on coming.

"He likes me...he REALLY likes me!"

 

[Lone_Gunman]

How many products have not been produced because of fear of lawsuits?

Rabbi,

How about name a few of them for me?

 

[CarlS]

How about name a few of them for me?

Lone_Gunman.

Cessna quit producing light aircraft, the kind that the little guy could afford, years ago due to product liability. The 170 and 180 families were and are stable, very safe, easy to fly, forgiving aircraft. The suit I remember most was a private pilot who got drunk, went up in marginal weather, crashed and died. His widow successfully sued Cessna under product liability. There were a string of such suits against Cessna, Piper, Beechcraft, and Mooney. Today, no American company builds a small private aircraft. At least this was the case ten years ago when I quit flying. So there are four examples.

 

[targetshootr]

if you plan on voting for him you better get what use out of them that you can now....

Heck, we'll get to shoot guns like it's nobody's business. Only half-way around the world.


Cheney doesn't have Edwards' hair, it's true,what else does Edwards have?


He's more of a Tony Blair than a Darth Vader.

 

[jAK-47]

You can trust the government - just ask any Indian

Carl,

Bombay or Bangalore? Indians LOVE us - we're sending them thousands of jobs!

Due to the PC police, I think you mean "Native Americans". And because of our politicians' selling and ignoring our future, you had better teach your children/grandchildren Chinese - NOT SPANISH.

In about 20 years or less (unless we miraculously start voting for politicians who are not for sale to the highest bidder) China is going to take over as king of the hill. Of course we can always hope that THEIR politicians screw it up...

jAK-47

 

[sumpnz]

Today, no American company builds a small private aircraft. At least this was the case ten years ago when I quit flying. So there are four examples.

Beechcraft never quit producing the Bonaza, and AFAIK the Baron too. In fact the Bonaza holds the record for the longest continuous production run ever for a general aviation aircraft. Cessna is producing 172's and 182's again. They've made some upgrades to the design, but nothing radical. Bare bones new 172's are selling for IIRC $170K but about 40% or 60% (can't remember which) is to cover their liability insurance premiums. Barons start at close $1million and Bonazas are around $400K for bare bones. Piper, last I heard, had been resurected and is producing again, as with Mooney.

I'm pretty much a "common man" but the 172 cost more than my house did when I bought it 3 years ago. I don't know of many people who could afford a 172 and a house.

The suit I remember most was a private pilot who got drunk, went up in marginal weather, crashed and died. His widow successfully sued Cessna under product liability.

Cessna also lost a suit when a widow sued claiming her hubby crashed becuase the plane was too difficult to fly. Pretty ironic when they also lost the suit above because the widow claimed the plane to easy to get up in the air becuase her drunk-off-his-butt husband was able to do so.

Most products are not terminated becuase of liability concerns. They just get a lot more expensive and come with all kinds of warnings and disclaimers.

Edit: A lot of products become more expensive becuase they either need to cover the insurance premium, or becuase of a costly re-design or more costly design in the first place that was used to aviod litigaition instead of cheaper design. That and things like my table saw come with that annoying guard on the blade that most people just take off becuase it's too much of a pain to actually use.

 

[The Rabbi]

By definition almost this is trying to prove a negative. How many products were killed before marketing because of liability concerns? I don't know. I would have had to be in on every conversation in every company in the US. I may be close to G-d, but not that close.
I do know when I was doing the mortgage business that we could offer products in TN that could not be offered in AL. One of the biggest sub-prime lenders, Ford, would not do business there because they paid $1M for recording an overnight fee on the wrong line of the HUD-1 Settlement Statement. Citizens in AL did not have access to the same credit that citizens in TN did.
If you're a doctor, try getting malpractice insurance for an OB/GYN in Birmingham. It either cant be done or it is cost prohibitive. Same thing in MS and other states. All of this is prompted by trial lawyers and their outrageous tactics.

 

[fletcher]

Kerry and Edwards are having a rally at my university this Saturday (very short-notice). Although I don't like either of their ideas, I may stop by and see how boring Kerry really is to listen to

 

[CarlS]

Bombay or Bangalore? Indians LOVE us - we're sending them thousands of jobs!

Uh, wrong continent! Wrong Indians. It's the political correct libs that came up with the "Native American" BS. Anyone born here is a native American. Most of us indigenous people of the US still refer to ourselves as "Indians", though, usually we refer to ourselves by tribe.

But I think we're off topic a little!

 

[R.H. Lee]

They can't keep their hands off each other!

 

[DigMe]

Kerry's really eyeing those lips here. He wants some more sloppy kissin'!!

Off into the sunset...cue "Just the Two of Us" by Bill Withers:

brad cook