Low flash powder for mid-range .357 magnum ?

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  1. mikle76

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    I want to load up some mid range loads for my 4" revolver as a close range Deer gun for those occasions when a big doe walks out under my stand that I can also comfortably enjoy as a range load. I'm looking for about 1000-1100 FPS from a 158 grain bullet. Ya'll have any suggestions on a powder that's known to not throw big fireballs at such velocities? I now there are LOTS of choices in powder in this velocity range but I want to get specific about not having a big blinding light show.
     
  2. AJC1

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    8.4 grains Silhouette
     
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  3. Jdague12

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    5.8gr of Titegroup works great for me. I put it through 686-6 with 4” barrel. Averaging about 1075fps
     
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  4. GeoDudeFlorida

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    It’s not my favorite powder because I prefer lead flat nose bullets but with 14.5gr of Accurate No.11FS under a Speer 158gr JHP you’ll get around 1100fps from a 4” revolver. The FS is for Flash Suppressant. It’s low flash but a real slow powder kinda kin to W296. No good for lead but great for jacketed bullets as long as the jacket covers the base.
     
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  5. Palladan44

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    it contains flash suppressant and although it isn't optimized for maximum velocity in 357 Magnum
    It will get you into the velocities you desire.
    (This powder is optimum for 9mm, 40s&w, 357 SIG and other Automatics.)
    In low light in 357 Mag, even BE-86 will produce a noticeable flash especially via cylinder gap.

    Otherwise there is always that "Huh" factor... sometimes certain combos just don't flash much, and others do, for no particular reason (that I can figure out)..... 2400 under any hardcast lubed lead doesn't flash much for me. Or at least a lot less flash than say WW-296 or Blue Dot.
    I have also loaded AA#9 with a lot less flash than 296 or BD.

    I use WW-296 under 158 gr jacketed deepcurls for deer. I never really have been bothered by any flash it creates, even in low light... but I recall seeing flash present for sure.
     
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    BE-86
     
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  7. Walkalong

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    BE-86 is excellent stuff for midrange.357 Mag, and, as posted, has flash suppressants.
     
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    I'll add Accurate #7 to the mix
     
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  9. .45Coltguy

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    Another vote for BE-86. An excellent powder.
     
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  10. Shivahasagun

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    CFE-P at near-max doesn't have much flash from my 3 inch Colt.

    158 gr XTP JHP averages about 960 fps from that barrel & load. Not a barn-burner.
     
  11. Riomouse911

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    H-110 is NOT the powder you’re looking for :rofl:

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    I find Unique and Bullseye are pretty low-flash for low and mid range .357 loads..I haven’t tried BE-86, that sounds like its pretty good according to the guys above.:thumbup:

    Stay safe.
     
  12. mikle76

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    Thanks guys! I should add the powder will primarily go under a flat nose lead bullet from Rim Rock but I do have some JHP's on the bench that will get used also I'm sure.
     
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  13. AJC1

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    My profile picture is exactly my load....
     
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    I have never tried BE-86, but it sure sounds like what the OP is looking for. I like Power Pistol for my “less than W-296/H-110/300-MP” loads, but it is fairly flashy. Has anyone tried Ramshot True Blue in the upper mid range .357 Magnum loads?
     
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  15. AJC1

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    Yes and at the starting load of 8.8 grains I start having signs of sticky extraction...
     
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    That's interesting, it looks like Hodgdon dropped True Blue from their online load data for .357 Magnum.
    Wonder if there may be a problem there. I've not tried it in .357 yet, won't now.
     
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    I've only tested it with lead and it may be better with jacketed.... my primary cartridges are 38 for broc and 357 for me so I would be bullet broke if I was buying jacketed....
     
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    I also recommend BE-86. I went through about 20 pounds of it when it was available but I haven't seen it on the shelves for the past 2+ years.
     
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  19. .45Coltguy

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    20 pounds!? Lawdy, you do a LOT of shooting. Whew.
     
  20. GeoDudeFlorida

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    I tried it out. Not impressed. No.5 and No.7 are better. I've seen good reports for Silhouette but haven't tried it, yet.
     
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    The wife and I were doing a lot of indoor pistol shooting with short barreled guns and the range lanes themselves were not very brightly lite so we were seeing a lot of flash so I switched to Ramshot Silhouette and the problem vanished.
     
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    Hmmm, Western Powders load data Edition 6.0 lists True Blue data with bullet weights from 110 gr JHP to 187 gr lead SWC. I guess I will have to load a few to see how they work. I will start low, based on AJC1’s post #15.
     
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  23. tightgroup tiger

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    What I referenced was printed in 2016. Western Powder's #1 manual
    I just found Western Powders #8 manual and it still has same data as #1 and #6.
    #8 = ©2020 Western Powders, Inc.
    Guess Hodgdon's omitting Trueblue's data is a recent development.

    So would I as much as I shoot .357 mag.
     
  24. kalielkslayer

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    Silhouette is a low flash powder. But, so far I’ve only used it in 9mm.
     
  25. kmw1954

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    I have used it in 380, 9mm 38Spl, 45acp and it has worked well in all of them and much better than some other powders I have tried..
     
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