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low pressure shotgun loads

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by IM391, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. IM391

    IM391 New Member

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    I'm looking for a low pressure load for 12 gauge 2 3/4" hunting grouse. I have an old Parker double with damascus barrels. A gunsmith said it is safe to shoot if I keep the pressure down. I have PB and Top Gun empties on hand.

    I did find a PB load at the IMR data sight of 19 gr PB with an CB 1100 wad (WSL 1oz) in a AA with Win209 primer. The recipe is rated at 4500 psi. I am wondering if anyone else has experiences in this area.

    Anyone know if there is any difference between the Remington 209P shotgun primer and the new Remington 209 STS primer? All internet recipes are still showing the 209P primer.
     
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  2. Earlsbud

    Earlsbud New Member

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    The ONLY loads I would shoot through a Damascus bbl would be black powder loads. Period.
     
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  4. IM391

    IM391 New Member

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    I know about the risk innvolved. That is why I had a gunsmith go through the gun and found it is shootable.
     
  5. oneounceload

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    RST and Polywad have the low pressure loads you are seeking that will work well in your gunsmith-certified-safe-to-shoot Parker

    Not cheap, but how many rounds are you going to shoot anyway?
     
  6. 243winxb

    243winxb Senior Member

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    Do not shoot it, but if you must. Proof test it first. Sit it in an old tire with a long rope. Damascus twist barrels rust within the barrel where no one can see it. :uhoh:
     
  7. brickeyee

    brickeyee Senior Member

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    Unless he has x-ray equipment to check the barrel there is not any other inspection that can be performed to determine if is is "shootable."

    A visual check is not adequate.

    Magnuflux is not adequate.
     
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    http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/components/shotshell-components/shotshellprimers.aspx New 209 Premier STS primers can be substituted for Remington's previous 209P primers without changes in published reloading formulas. Briley has a good rightup on old shotguns worth reading. http://www.briley.com/articles/grampas_shotgun.html
    :D
     
  9. oneounceload

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    There are thousands of folks who shoot old Damascus barrel shotguns everyday in this country - groups like the Vintagers do it all year long. Your gunsmith has given you the OK for low-pressure loads; check out the ones I mentioned above - they make them for EXACTLY this scenario, as well as for those who have guns with 2 and 2.5 inch chambers - it is what these folks do
     
  10. Uniquedot

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    I separated the barrels on a nice old Swedish damascus double with a trap load once. The problem with this happening is usually a reloader looks at low pressure target data in loading manuals and assume that factory target loads are low pressure and a non reloader just assumes! when in fact they are generally running at maximum pressures because the manufacturers take into account that many of these loads will be fired from autoloaders. I always preferred Goex or Elephant when using damascus guns anyway and besides it doesn't involve robbing the traditional old doubles of their flavor.

    He would want to make sure the inserts are good quality in construction since 20 ga. target loads are generally higher pressure than 12's.
     

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