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LTB Mini 30 or What Brand AK-47

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by drwindmill, Apr 28, 2007.

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  1. drwindmill

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    What rifle is better to own? I already own several 223's and am looking for something in the 7.62x39. High capacity mags will be a factor in my decision. The only problem I can see is there are so many different AK-47's.
     
  2. Avenger29

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    Go with the AK series. Mags are available and reliable. There are many different brands of AKs.

    For the base AK, I would go with a Saiga and have it converted, or do it yourself, which is quite possible.

    Cheapest option is a WASR- built by Century. I would not reccommend one of these, though. Very poor QC on Century's behalf

    There are high-dollar AKs built by Krebs and some other companies. How much do you have to spend on the AK?
     
  3. Plink

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    I second the AK. It's a lot less picky on magazines and inexpensive mags are all over the place. It's reliable and durable. You can buy a Saiga already converted in the $500 range and that's quite a value, as some lesser quality models sell for more money. All in all though, most any AK you find will be as reliable as sunrise.
     
  4. MudPuppy

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    No way would I personally get a mini-30 over an AK.

    A milled bulgy is the best for the price, imo. My WASR was a little rough, but shot just fine--I don't think I'd buy one sight unseen or from someone whom I couldn't return it to if it was a lemon.
     
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    NO way I'd get a Mini 30.

    Look at AK's mags VS the mini 30's mags. (Amoung MANY other reasons)

    If you get a WASR check the couple things, and make sure it has/put in a G2 trigger and you'll be find.

    I think a couple good AK's are on the Buy/Sell/trade forums right now.
     
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    i would also go with the ak, but i personally don't like the wasr series. i would suggest a romanian sar at a minimum, and even better would be a mak-90, or even better one of the yugo underfolders, which are by far the best in that price range that i have found. don't just get an ak to get one, get one that is gonna serve you well.
     
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    And DON'T get an underfolder.
     
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    As a plinker/historical toy/weapon - yeah, AK.
    As a hunter - CZ carbine.

    For the AK - I have to admit, the Saigas look pretty awesome, although they do need all the conversion stuff done on 'em. Romanians are adequate. I've a couple (well, half finished) parts guns built on Nodak receivers and overseas cut up milsurp AKs. Neat from a historical point of view, but not something I'd trust (or recommend) as a weapon - the Romanian especially.


    -K
     
  9. drwindmill

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    Okay, gentlemen it looks like the the AK is what I need. Now, I know very little what to look for and at this point do not want to do any work to it myself, so I would rather buy it ready to go. More help on this subject would be greatly appreciated, like an exact brand or even better would be the very gun for me to purchase....
     
  10. drwindmill

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    Forgot to add, I bought some ammo tonight for my AK that I don't even have yet!!
     
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    Well, how much money are you willing/able to part with? AK's come between $300-$1000.

    Also, look in the Reading Library at the top of the forum and see the thread "Which AK should I get?"
     
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    I am looking to spend $500-$900. Where could I find an Arsenal brand new?
     
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    +1 for Arsenal Arms.

    I have to agree about the Arsenal's or the Krebs. They offer the best package for someone looking to get into a great AK. Another solid one is from Polytech, but as far as availability is concerned, grab an Arsenal AK.
     
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    I have owned Mini's and AK's, buy the Ruger if you want a quality firearm buy the AK if you want to "spray and prey" and play rambo with a third world gun. The Ak is tougher or can take it better if you want to play rambo and get it in the mud or dirt etc. The Ruger will be a lot more accurate or at least mine was, and if I was planing on any kind of hunting would pick the Ruger for sure. If my primary object was to fill 30 round clips and have fun, get the AK.
     
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    Sorry, eliphalet, your comparison is simply not true when discussing the better AK designs such as Krebs, Arsenals, or Saigas (Saigas are Russian-made AK's imported in a "sporter" configuration). The better quality AK's will leave the Mini-30s in the dust. With good ammunition, they can be quite accurate.
     
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    Usually you get what you pay for.

    Perhaps in a Valmet, yes. Had one of those once, it was a quality AK no doubt, but the price was quite different than a Saiga. I won't argue but my personal experience was what I stated above with what one;s I have owned. and shot.
     
  18. drwindmill

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    Where can I buy a stock Saiga? How is the functionality of stock one?
     
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    Functionality of the stock Saiga is just fine. Only problem is that it will not accept hi-caps without some modifying. You can find instructions elsewhere. Ask you local dealer to order one, or order one from FBMG.

    If you modify the Saiga, you must install enough US made parts to be legal. Details are also elsewhere on the net. Someone else will probably post links.
     
  20. drwindmill

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    Looks to me, I should either buy an Arsenal or just start with Saiga and work my way into this.
     
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    Or you could buy a Tromix converted Saiga
     
  22. drwindmill

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    Tromix look awesome, but it would be nice to spend about half of that.:)
     
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    Then look into converting the Saiga yourself. My 5.56 saiga is sitting in pieces right now waiting for me to start.
     
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    you only need a us pistol grip, us nato stock and the G2 fire control group, then you have enough US parts.

    still need a bullet guide...

    or just buy one from Will, Google "Red Jacket Firearms"... $589 USD...
     
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