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Ludacris, guns and Anheuser Busch

Discussion in 'Legal' started by jsalcedo, Mar 9, 2004.

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  1. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Member

    Dec 31, 2002

    A Ludacris choice

    This time, it's Budweiser rewarding bad behavior for profit

    A couple of years ago, I chastised Pepsi for hiring gangsta rapper
    Ludacris as a pitchman. There was a public outcry, Pepsi folded,
    Ludacris was sacked.

    Now, incredibly, Anheuser-Busch has done the same thing. The company
    will pay this guy Ludacris big bucks to push beer.

    My basic objection to this is simple: Some American corporations are
    rewarding bad behavior in pursuit of more profit. Ludacris puts out
    rap that celebrates criminal activity (such as selling narcotics),
    general debauchery and violence against women. There is no question
    about that. Does Anheuser-Busch believe that kind of exposition is
    good for the USA? Does the company realize that millions of children,
    many of them unsupervised, digest the garbage Ludacris puts out? Does
    the company care?

    Lest you think Ludacris is some kind of Ozzy Osborne, here are some of
    his lyrics:

    I got my twin glock .40's cocked back/Me and my homies, so drop that.

    My shotguns are cold and hard . . ./My triggers are always talking
    about some squeeze me, squeeze me.

    Hollow bullets I pull it,/I'm about to live in vain/And then I drill
    'em, refill 'em,/make sure they feel the pain.

    Talk to most educators in poor neighborhoods and they will tell you
    that the debasement of our culture, of which gangsta rap is a big
    part, has coarsened children in general and put high-risk kids in a
    dangerous place. Taking drugs, carrying guns and disrespecting human
    beings is now not only socially acceptable in many situations, it is
    downright glamorous.

    Anheuser-Busch has a gleaming headquarters in St. Louis. It is a place
    of wealth and power. But a few miles east across the Mississippi lies
    East St. Louis, a devastated city where drug gangs rule entire
    neighborhoods. Children as young as 10 work as their lookouts, and
    13-year-olds sell heroin and crack cocaine. Violence is as common as a
    garbage pickup.

    Ludacris sells big in East St. Louis and other dangerous
    neighborhoods. His rap is something criminal kids can identify with.
    He encourages "the life."

    Isn't it time Americans demand corporations stop polluting the
    country? Whether it's dumping PCBs in waterways or promoting
    degenerate CDs, corporate chieftains should be held responsible by
    consumers. Hiring a person like Ludacris to push beer is reprehensible
    to me, and so I will exercise my right not to do business with
    Anheuser-Busch, which, by the way, owns a series of family theme parks
    across the country.

    On his latest CD, ol' Ludacris has a rap song called "Hoes in My
    Room." It's a harsh diatribe about, well, women the man does not
    respect but who somehow inhabit his "space." The last few lines go
    like this:

    Then it got to my head, and somethin' reminded me

    I know who let 'em in, it was Bill O'Reilly (faggot).

    So add a gay slur to the list of crudities Ludacris embraces as he
    dances down the road to millionaire status. Anheuser-Busch should be
    very proud to be in business with a guy like this.
  2. Devonai

    Devonai Member

    Mar 24, 2003
    I believe in the First Amendment with all my heart. It is up to parents to regulate their child's entertainment, otherwise adults can make up their own minds.

    That being said, I hope Ludicrous dies how he lives.
  3. Treylis

    Treylis Member

    Dec 14, 2003
    Tempe, Arizona
    Tsk, tsk. Can't pull back the hammer on a DAO firearm.
  4. DTLoken

    DTLoken member

    Jan 2, 2003
    Bill O'Riley is a stupid windbag.

    I think I remember listening his radio show and hearing him say something to the extent that his problem with Ludacris endorsing Pepsi was the fact that it's something marketed to, and consumed by children.

    Now what's his problem when Ludacris endorses something that is legally only to be consumed by adults? Really, whats the problem here.

    Stupid moralists trying to enforce their views on everyone else.
  5. Mulliga

    Mulliga Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Gainesville, Florida
    Only way to have the striker "cocked back" is by partially depressing the trigger...bad show Luda!

    You don't squeeze a shotgun trigger :).

    I guess "hollow bullets" means hollowpoints.

    50 Cent seems to know a heckuva lot more about guns. ;)
  6. 12-34hom

    12-34hom Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Ia, Northeastern
    It's good to be the King.

    R = Retards

    A = Attempting

    P = poetry.

  7. ravinraven

    ravinraven Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Brasher Falls NY
    CORE's "top" rapper

    I saw on "The Factor" a Mr. Ennis who is the chief of the Congress Of Racial Equality. He says Ludacris is the worst of the rappers.

    This mess will only be straightened out when the Black Community says "Enough!" If a white looks at it and comments every retard in the country yells "Racism" even if you go after that white rapper Eminem[??]

  8. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Member

    Dec 23, 2002
    Not all rap starts with a C. I remember some of the stuff being quite wholesome.

    Anyhow, .40? Isn't that harder to rhyme than 9? Twin Glocks? Wouldn't he be better off with something like a 23 and a 27 as a BUG?

    Don't drink beer so I can't say I'm supporting him.

    Ludacris speed!!!! (and why can't rappers spell their own names? I gotta give 50 Cent credit for that...wait, shouldn't that be 50 Cents?)
  9. NewShooter78

    NewShooter78 Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Honolulu, HI
    While, I'm not a fan of his music, Ludacris' music can't be blamed for anything. No rap can. If there were decent parents out there to keep their kids from listening to this, what issue would there be? If more parents were actually role models for their children, the children wouldn't idolize dumb a$$ thugs and jocks. Entertainers are just that, entertainers.

    Censorship is not a good thing. Corporations have the right to endorse who they want. It's there protected free speech. It's up to the public to not buy their products if they don't like said corporations endorsment choices. Beside AB's using Ludacris is just a cheap tie in because the rapper's latest album is entitled Chicken n' Beer.
  10. Black92LX

    Black92LX Member

    Jul 12, 2003
    i would have to agree. i had a problem with pepsi doing because kids drink. but kids don't drink beer, i don't see a problem.

    and if you guys think Ludacris has some bad lyrics. You all need to here the Dayton Family. Back when i was in middle school i was G-Thug Whitey and listened to them. though i do have to admit i put them on every once in awhile just for the memory of the old days:uhoh:

    Dayton Family Lyrics
  11. CatsDieNow

    CatsDieNow Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Fort Worth, TX
    Also, don't forget this is the same company that publicly supports Missouri CCW.

    Thread link
  12. TheBluesMan

    TheBluesMan Senior Member

    Dec 20, 2002
    You use the word "enforce," but all O'Reilly is doing is "expressing" his opinion. He has the right to do that, doesn't he?

    He wants Busch to drop their support for Ludacris as a spokesman. What's the difference between expressing his desire for that and expressing my desire for Bush to drop his support for the AWB?

    Whether O'Reilly is using moral or legal or some other type of argument seems immaterial to me. He's simply expressing his opinion.

    I had a problem with Dodge supporting the "bikini bowl" during the super bowl - I wrote them a letter about it.
    I have a problem with amazon.com selling a book on paedophilia - I write them a letter every month about it.
    I have a problem with the United Way pulling funding from the Boy Scouts in Ohio - I wrote them a letter about it.

    Is there something wrong with that?
  13. SAG0282

    SAG0282 Member

    Sep 23, 2003
    Pierce Co. WA

    At this point I'm more inclined to sympathize with Ludacris than with O'Reilly, a "pundit" I consider only somewhat less annoying and prone to spin then Michael Moore.
  14. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Colorado Springs
    Why should they care? In fact if they did "kid friendly" advertising they would be accused of trying to sell their product to minors (ala Joe Camel).

    That said, regardless of their stance on Gangsta Rap and CCW I still won't use their product because it sucks :p

    Besides that, Shiner Bock is the official brew of THR :neener:
  15. Pendragon

    Pendragon Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Austin, Texas
    The 1st Ammendment is about the GOVERNMENT not restricting free speech.

    O' Reilly is well within his rights and I think decent people are somewhat honor bound to speak up about anti social behaviors and shed light on things that may not add up.

    Whatever you think of O'Reilly, this is what he is doing. He is saying - this is what Ludacris stands for - is this what AB stand for? Is this what they want to associate with?

    We need to censure people not censor them.

    But no - anytime someone says "is this artist really expressing values you agree with?" people have to come out and scream censorship and first ammendment.

    The first ammendment allows us to speak against losers like Ludacris and use our influence in social circles and in the market to reduce his profits and kick the soap box out from under him.

    Nowhere does it say that we have to stand by and listen to thugs and idiots spew garbage and just placidly say "it is so nice that we can say what we want in this country".

    **** MISTAR LUDACRASS! :neener:
  16. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    Good call. I think that message is lost on the media.
  17. tfurey19

    tfurey19 Member

    Oct 13, 2003
    Ludacris is pretty good in all honesty

    Good beats, lyrics and such. Its an urban thing...

    As for rkba... Anheuser-Busch is very pro-gun and made us all proud by contacting Gov. Holden personally and telling him that they would not be endorsing him in his re-election bid. It was a very bad a$$ thing to do.

    If you want to support pro-rkba companies.... then support Anheuser-Busch. They don't come any more pro-gun than them.
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