Luger....

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I replied in another thread about shooting old "new" guns (I came down on the "shoot it! side, I've personally shot the heck out of this Luger; that's what it was made for right?)

I realized that I, not only, had posted in the revolver section, it was in someone else's thread and that wasn't my place to go any further so, i thought, what the heck, people like Lugers right?

Mine was brought home by a great uncle, given to his brother (my grandfather) then my dad, then to me and soon, to my son (just turned 16)

For those that care here's some pictures

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Belt buckle
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Belt with (I can only assume) the original owners name .
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Finally, I made one out of scrap wood too that I thought some of you might get a kick of (bottom one is wood)

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Holy smokes, those are both gorgeous- especially the handmade one!
My double-dated Weimar Police rework-
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This began life as an DWM Artillery Model and had a 100mm barrel installed at Erfurt to comply with treaty obligations. This one also has the riveted sideplate safety, but not the magazine safety. Someone did a very tasteful hot-blue and polish job on it at some point too.....so it was affordable, lol.

P38 better than Luger?!? Oh man, those are fighting words! :D
Ive had both. Didnt like the Walther, but the Luger's not going anywhere.
 
I've been looking at this Luger but it may be to expensive for me. I just had to buy $7K worth of furniture for my wife and I think that is more important than this gun is. I also want to buy a new smoker so these buys for me always come at the wrong time.
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It's a longer barreled model that I think has all matching numbers and looks to be in mint condition but I can't tell if it's been reblued or not.
Maybe you Luger experts could tell me if this looks to good or not.
Repro leather holster comes with it. It looks completely new.
 
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I've been looking at this Luger but it may be to expensive for me. I just had to buy $7K worth of furniture for my wife and I think that is more important than this gun is. I also want to buy a new smoker so these buys for me always come at the wrong time.
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It's a longer barreled model that I think has all matching numbers and looks to be in mint condition but I can't tell if it's been reblued or not.
Maybe you Luger experts could tell me if this looks to good or not.
Repro leather holster comes with it. It looks completely new.
Definitely refinished, originally would have had a matte straw blue.
 
Ok, good, then it is too much money to buy because of what they covered up with the re-blue.
Thanks.

Y-T71, your Luger I would have to shoot, they are supposed to be a lot of fun to shoot and I wouldn't be able to resist. I don't have one yet so all I can do is look at yours through Jealous eyes.
 
Ok, good, then it is too much money to buy because of what they covered up with the re-blue.
Thanks.

Y-T71, your Luger I would have to shoot, they are supposed to be a lot of fun to shoot and I wouldn't be able to resist. I don't have one yet so all I can do is look at yours through Jealous eyes.

Yes, Mr Tiger.

Mine is "crown RC" (stamps saying that all over the pistol) I don't think it's all that uncommon for an Eurfurt example especially later war.

It could mean any number of things including blemishes on the finish (yes, the Germans were so proud of their products that they would fail something for something as simple as a blemish)

More likely however was a minor discrepancy in a non critical dimension.
Either way this pistol deserves to be shot and shot it will be!
 
No, I don't. What is it?

Not sure, let a brother in!
German officers in the cold winters of WW1 would give their men inspirational speeches, often just before an attack. These speeches would usually end with the phrase "Gott mit uns!" (God is with us!), which would be taken up and repeated by the troops-
"Gott mit uns! Gott mit uns! Gott mit uns!"

The Allied soldiers shivering in their own trenches a few meters away would yell back, "Aw pipe down over there, will ya? We got mittens too!"
 
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Very nice Luger. Just keep in mind that the typical 9mm round from 100+ years ago was much "tamer" than what you will often find today.
 
Very nice Luger. Just keep in mind that the typical 9mm round from 100+ years ago was much "tamer" than what you will often find today.
I think not. Can you provide evidence to substantiate this claim? If anything, I think it was the other way around. SAAMI standard for the 9X19 today is 35,000 PSI; 38,500 for the +P. Don't know what 9X19 pressures were a hundred years ago, but I do know that the 9X25 Mauser round was loaded to just under 38,000 PSI. That pushed a 128 gr. bullet @ 1360 FPS. Kinda hot!
 
I don't know the pressures but when Luger demonstrated to the US Army in 1903 the new 9mm came with two loads.
124 gr bullet + 5.4 gr Rotweil pistol NC = 1033 fps from 3.9" barrel.
Penetrated 197 mm of pine, 8 boards in the usual setup.
5.9 gr of powder got 1095 fps and 10 boards.
Velocity at 50 feet, probably a Boulenge with breaks at muzzle and 100 ft, therefore a lower reading than actual muzzle velocity.

Remington catalogs 124 gr 9mm at 1110 fps.

Did DWM soup up 9mms for the Navy in 1904? For the 1906 coil spring guns? For the 1908 Army model?
 
My point of reference is my brother's WWII Luger. It's not happy with typical US production 115 gr FMJ range fodder. Give it a mag full of 9mm NATO 124 gr FMJ and it runs like a champ.
Mine will always eject with 115gr FMJ, but sometimes the toggle doesnt acheive its full travel and pick up a new round from the mag. GECO and other NATO-spec ammo run just fine, as do most SD HP loads.
 
I think not. Can you provide evidence to substantiate this claim? If anything, I think it was the other way around. SAAMI standard for the 9X19 today is 35,000 PSI; 38,500 for the +P. Don't know what 9X19 pressures were a hundred years ago, but I do know that the 9X25 Mauser round was loaded to just under 38,000 PSI. That pushed a 128 gr. bullet @ 1360 FPS. Kinda hot!

D.R. Strousberg, SOF weapons facility manager Ft Bragg NC 1980-2004.
 
My point of reference is my brother's WWII Luger. It's not happy with typical US production 115 gr FMJ range fodder. Give it a mag full of 9mm NATO 124 gr FMJ and it runs like a champ.


This particular example like "warm" 120-125gr TC&RN.

115gr, not so much.
 
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