Lyman Plains Bullet mod

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  1. frontiergander

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    Ok so maybe its not really a huge hot rodding improvement but it was neat to try and see how well it works. After all, a soft lead projectile turns real nasty when a hollow point is introduced right?

    TC Maxi Shok kit I bought off ebay last week came in and so I loaded up the rifle and seated one.

    #1 thing I noticed right away is that the tip bites in deep and as you remove the ramrod, it tends to take the bullet up the bore until it catches some rifling or a tight spot and then falls off. This certainly is something you'd want to do at home and carry them preformed rather than formed in the field. I just seated the projectile with the rifles ramrod and everything was A-ok. I plan on finding a drop tube that I can put the bullet into, form it and then put it into my bullet packaging.

    For the first test I used the Arrow Tip as it forms a nice sharp tipped hollow point that's not large enough to cause the bullet to grenade during impact. Next up I will use the Dot tip as its very shallow and round, most likely best suited for hunting. The cross tip I feel will not be very useful as its very blunt and would be pure **** trying to drive it into the nose of the bullet. The star tip looks just like a phillips head screw driver, very narrow at the point and widens greatly at the base.

    The brass attachment jags are just a few thousands under bore size so they really help center that tip into the center of the projectile. I also used a bore guide as extra insurance.

    Now the real test? Filling up a ton of water jugs and shooting into them and HOPEFULLY recovering them. To cold for that, so this will do for now.
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    Awesome!! I cannot wait to see this experiment take place! Love that gun of yours. Say do you prefer the traditions sidelocks over other brands such as TC or Lyman? I heard that the path for the percussion caps flame is more of a straight shot compared to other brands...but i dunno if i read wrong or if this is accurate.
     
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    yes its a pretty straight shot and much larger powder channel than the tc and lyman guns. Ive had great luck with my traditions so i pretty much stick with my st louis hawken. I do have many brands, this one just fits me like a glove and shoots amazing. Haven't missed a big game animal yet.
     
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    Without pix, it never happened. just sayin... :D
     
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    I wonder if maybe a half inch pipe could be used to hold the bullets while you used the jag tips. That way you dont have to use your barrel to form these bullets and possibly make a lot customized bullets faster. Seems like a very nice set up....im really interested in the results. And mr.dave951....im sure pics are on their way...mr.frontiergander never seems to disapoint with his postings and pictures. Im sure were all in for a treat
     
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    Looks like a couple #2 Phillips. I want to see the aftermath
     
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    Inasmuch as most "serious" ML hunting rifles start at .45 caliber and go up, I've always wondered if they really need to mushroom at all. I used a Great Plains bullet on last November's elk cow, and it has a generous hollow point. It went in behind her near shoulder and out the far shoulder, breaking it and sending her to the turf. Even after chugging through all that bone, the exit wound was maybe 1" across. This was my first ML slug kill. I've had fine results from round balls.
     
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    I have a couple of these kits but never used them.
    AFAIK they were discontinued a long time ago.
     
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    Interested to see if this makes any significant difference.
     
  11. TheOutlawKid

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    If this kit offers promising results then im totally getting one. Might make a .45 cal muzzleloader an even better gun. Or even make a .54 cal an even more serious destroying bullet.
     
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    I’ve got one too. I will have to dig it out and fool with it a bit.
     
  13. Loyalist Dave

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    Folks report taking .22 LR hollow-points with a simple hole in the tip, and opening that up with the tip of a Phillips head bit, and getting much better results on squirrels and such. So I'd think the center projectile in the photo above of the three...will be a good one.

    You may find that you need to up the powder charge so that the velocity at impact will cause consistent deformaton.

    Not sure the trade-off of recoil from the load needed to launch the conicals to get the hollow-point effect will be justified by the results on the game vs. a patched round ball. Should prove interesting.

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  14. SlowFuse

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    As I was reading this I thought of the Paco Kelly Accurizer for 22's. Same logic as what you're talking about.

    OP, this looks interesting. "In" for the results as well!
     
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