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M&p 340

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by DAdams, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. jfh

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    re Loopers--I ordered it about April 15--or, it was the day after you first mentioned it. Heard nothing. Then, saw the charge last Monday. Arrived Thursday. It's two-three days from central-state locations (MO, KS) to here by Fedex Ground.

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  2. DAdams

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    Here are some pics of my first OWB for a J Frame. The price was right at $29 and I can see some circumstances where it may be a prefereable method of carry than my usual pocket method.

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    M&P 340 with CT 405 grips.

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  3. hornblower

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    DAadams

    Do you also carry IWB, and if so, what holster do you use?
     
  4. 3rd Generation American

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    Holy smokin' barrel!! I just stumbled on this post.
    Wow lots of good stuff here. I've had a 340PD for 2 years and just found out more infomation then I thought was available. Thanks to all you posters I now know better loads to use and how to get my CT sighted in better and quicker.
    Keep it up please and if I come up with any relevant questions I'll know where to go.
     
  5. DAdams

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    hornblower asks:
    have only one IWB holster, and it was purchased on an experimental basis just to see how it worked. It is an Uncle Mikes Number 36. If it worked ok for me, then I would have purchased something of a higher quality.

    I find IWB extremely unfortable. The only location I can use it with my body form factor and without going to the next pant size is in the small of the back.

    Maybe if I drop an inch. ;)

    I am sticking with pocket carry for 97% of the time I suspect with the exception of winter wear and maybe some summer shirts untucked. My carry aresenal is designed around it. M&P 340, 642, Kahr PM 9, and Seecamp .380.

    I like the OWB, couldn't tell the 340 was there. The next holster will be OWB for a 3 inch L Frame.
     
  6. DAdams

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    It is indeed your lucky day. Glad you were able to take something away.

    Thanks for joining us.
     
  7. hornblower

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    Finally, I Have My 340 Ct

    I had ordered my 340 CT at the end of February.

    The dealer from whom I ordered it told me that it would be available on March 5.

    I gave them my $200 deposit, and I anxiously awaited the arrival of my revolver.

    March 5 came and went and when I checked with the dealer he said that S&W had these on backorder.

    Checking the internet, I found that Gallery of Guns had 8 in stock.

    I called the dealer and was told they don't order from Gallery of Guns; they order direct from S&W.

    I called or emailed the dealer once a week inquiring about delivery of the 340.

    When it hadn't come by this Wednesday, May 7, I again went on the internet and found that R&R had 7 of them in stock.

    I called the dealer and said I wanted to order from R&R and would they do the transfer.

    They were holding a Ruger MKIII Hunter and a Remington 870 Marine Magnum that I had ordered at the same time as the 340.

    I also suggested they call S&W and try to get a projected delivery date; after all this time, if delivery was imminent,

    I didn't want to order from R&R who are in Minnesota.

    The dealer came back and said S&W said it would be delivered within a month!!!! -after waiting since end February.

    I said the heck with that and I ordered from R&R.

    They shipped it on Thursday and it arrived at the dealer on Friday.

    I drove the two hours!!!! to the dealer and picked up my 3 guns today.

    They had the temerity to charge me a $50 transfer fee!!!

    Anyway, I have my 340 and two Mikka pocket holsters, a round and a square.

    I got in my car at the dealer, loaded the 340 with 3 38's and 2 357's, put it in my Mikka pocket holster, and drove the two hours home.

    Tomorrow the range! and I get to fire my babies.

    I have snap caps for all my weapons and have been dry firing since I returned home.

    The 340 sure is a little beauty!
     
  8. colt1903

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    Welcome Hornblower! The 340's have the strangely inherent ability to appear both beautiful and business-like at the same time.
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  9. benjam8291

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    Fisrt Shots!!!

    Hi Guys,

    After taking possession of my 340PD with Crimson Trace LG-405's 2 weeks ago, I finally got some range time in!!!

    After reading all of the horror stories for the past several months I wasn't sure what to expect. I had probably over 100,000 rounds under my belt in autos and full size revolvers, but this was my fist snubby experience.

    I started with good old remington .38 Special FMJ and then moved to a box of .38 Special +P JHP's. After I established a good idea of POA and made a couple very minor adjustments to the windage of the CT, I went ahead and tested my proposed carry ammo.

    Two cylinders of .38 Special Cor-Bon DPX and two cylinders of Cor-Bon .357 DPX. Neither was bad and POA was pretty much dead on.

    This has solidified my idea that I will be carrying a mixed cylinder of .38 and .357 DPX for daily carry.

    The recoil, while not pleasant, was not nearly enough to deter me from carrying .357 on a daily basis. While I am not a "recoil lover", I found 98% of the horror stories that I have read on numerous boards are complete bunk.

    Now just have to wait for my Kramer Pocket holster to get here!!!

    Shoot straight!!

    Ben
     
  10. Marvin KNox

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    MIKA holster modification?????

    A fellow on another defensive carry forum commented that he had tried the Mika holster and it didn’t work out for him. He said that it had no retention at all, which allowed the gun to fall out on the couch while seated.

    He did say that MIKA gave him a complete refund and told him to keep the old holster or give it to someone else. Robert Mika also sent him a new square cut to try at no charge to him.

    Not THAT’S customer service!

    Anyway – I told him that I found the Mika way too loose for my tastes as well. It does, indeed, allow the 340 to fall out of the holster while seated - NOT a good thing.

    It’s great for a lot of applications, but the total lack of retention becomes a problem when you sit down. I use it mostly when I throw it in some sweat pants to go to the store or stick it in a coat pocket. It was perfect for those things.

    What I did to get a little bit of retention for pants pocket carry was to add a few quick stitches to the material just below the trigger guard near the butt end. that snugged it up just enough to help with fall-out while retaining the easy draw and re-holster in the pocket.

    Anyway – what have you guys found concerning these things? Is (or was) your Mika without retention? Do you prefer it that way? Do you find that the gun falls out while seated?

    Have any of you done modifications at all to yours? If so – what did you do? The stitches on mine would be easily removed if there were a better way to gain some retention.

    MARV
     
  11. stanley_white

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    Here is an update to my M&P340 experience...

    I have now tried three different holsters over the course of two months all AIWB.

    First I tried a High Noon Mr. Softy. This is a nice holster but I quickly realized that I need to carry my M&P340 at a cant and the Mr. Softy is limited to vertical carry.

    I then tried the Clipdraw which is OUTSTANDING. The only drawback was that without a holster the gun gets sweaty.

    I then switched to what for me is the best of both worlds. The Fist #1KB in leather. It protects the weapon, retains its shape when empty, and is adjustable for cant which maximizes comfort based upon my body type.

    http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/k1/1KB.htm

    I am running Pachmayr Compac grips which make the 357 magnum 125 grain Federal JHPs easily controllable.

    http://www.lymanproducts.com/store/page88.html

    I think the Pacymayr Compac grips, though larger then the Hogue Bantam grips the M&P340 comes with from the factory, are easier to conceal due to their more rounded shape. The smaller Bantams seem to make the gun stick out more due to lack of backstrap etc making it more blocky.

    This is all of course based upon my body type as a six feet / 195 pound guy.
     
  12. hornblower

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    Marvin
    I have a S&W 340 CT and I have two Mikka pocket holsters, a square and a round.
    After reading your post, I sat in a chair and moved every which way to try and get the gun to fall out of the square pocket Mikka.
    I could not get it to do so.
    Perhaps my pockets are deeper than yours.
    I am wearing a pair of Bermuda Shorts (Cutter & Buck); nothing special, not designed for CC.
    I also have a Bianchi Super Fly with the Flap.
    I have not pocket carried with that as yet because the Mikka is so perfect.
    What I find with the Super Fly in just trying it, is that it is very tight and somewhat thicker in the pocket than the Mikka.
    I have been carrying for only 4 days, but this is my experience to date.
    My initial concern with the Super Fly is that I would have a tough time getting the gun out quickly because the holster is so tight.
    I have been leaving the 340 in the Super Fly when I am not carrying to see if I can loosen it up.
     
  13. Geezer59

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    Congrats on your new 340PD - great gun! One factor I think you might be overlooking - the LG-405 grips do a fabulous job in reducing felt recoil/split skin on thumbs, etc. Try your new toy with the skimpy little stock panels (or none at all), and try shooting it with any full-weight bullets (150 grains plus) at .38 Special +P or .357 Mag power levels. Then use the "recommended" high grip to reduce muzzle flip - you'll have a whole new experience to report. :evil:
     
  14. vermilion

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    Picked up a new M&P 340 on Monday and put 15rds of 38 LRN through it and 5rds of my carry ammo (speer gold dot short barrel 357mag). I managed to get 13/15 shots in a chest sized piece of plywood at 30 feet while standing. Great little gun and recoil wasn't bad at all. The CT 405's helped soak up some of it with the covered backstrap and that little lip under the trigger guard. I love this little J Frame.. Doubt i'll see myself carrying anything else for a long time haha.

    I'll post some pics later.
     
  15. DAdams

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    Welcome

    To those new members amongst us who have discovered the world of the 340and 340pds (360s too).

    I have not had a problem with the 340 or 642 coming out of my Mika round cut while seated. I guess if I ever did I would switch over to the DeSantis Nemesis which does have a slightly tighter grasp of the situation. The stitch seems like a reasonable fix. In defense of the Mika I like being able to put a full hand on the 405s and have it come clean with no push, tug or angled motion. I only have about four different brands and types of slacks/chinos and shorts. One or two have very shallow pockets. Case in point, while cleaning out the closet I recently discovered a pair of Chaps/Ralph Lauren kahki shorts. These things must have the shallowest pockets ever, now way I could pocket carry anything but the Seecamp 380. Mental note has been made, when these shorts come up in rotation they don't leave the house.
    I have noticed in some slacks that the pocket is not loose, that is to say it is sewn in place and those definitely dump everything, change, knives, keys you name it out on the couch. The best pockets are deep and cut loose so that when seated the pocket hangs down and doesn't remain on an a high dumping angle.

    Ah the challenges of pocket carry.

    That is why I like the Columbia Landers (slacks and shorts) with the deep zippered pocket behind the conventional pocket.

    benjam8291 says:
    I tend to agree. Must be all the bad azzes living in FL who find this to be the case.;)

    Again there are many mitigating circumstances that play into "felt recoil" and personal perception. I too though found the stories I initially read on the various boards to over state the case.
     
  16. FranklyTodd

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    What I'm going to say is actually a stong compliment to the gun. I find stout +Ps or .357s to cause quite a lot of soreness. It doesn't hurt while shooting, but I get a dull ache after a batch of hot loads that can last for a few days (pencil pusher).

    Even WITH such recoil "perception," I love this weapon, and carry it almost every day with SBGD .357s. I also practice enough, despite the after effects.

    Would I rather SHOOT a big 'ol steel revolver, sure! However, the ease of carry with this model outweighs a sore paw any day (not to mention the other good aspects of the gun).

    On pocket carry:

    I've seen these pants, and have to say, I just don't get it... To me the 2nd best advantage of pocket carry (behind comfort) is speed of presentation. I think I would rather carry on my ankle than put it in a pocket, and then ZIP THE POCKET CLOSED.

    Not trying to criticize, trying to understand... Very, very often I walk with my hand in my pocket on the gun - to not be able to do that, I would switch to some other carry method, I think...

    I use a Nemesis, with a Mika on order, so I can't comment directly. In my pants, I don't think it would "fall out" if I used no holster, so I suspect I'll be fine with the Mika...
     
  17. Marvin KNox

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    MIKA holster fallout:

    I do have to admit (after trying the holster with almost everything I can fit into) that the fall out problem is mostly limited to the slacks I’ve been wearing for the last few months. I’d put on quite a few pounds in the couple of years before trying concealed carry. For that reason – my wife got me a pair of black slacks that I’ve been wearing with almost all of my sports jackets.

    They have some stretch material in the sides and have grown and shrunk along with me over these many months. Those slack also have the sewn in kind of pockets in them and they don’t allow the holster to assume different angles when seated - other than directly in line with the leg (hope that makes sense).

    Now I’ve lost most of the 30 pounds and can at least fit into a few other things, although still a little snugly. Things will be better now with other pants I believe.

    I do think that the few stitches in the MIKA added to the security somewhat and they still allow for ease of use (like Robert designed it for). We’ll see how things go.

    (The MIKA really is a little different design from most others, allowing for ease of draw and insert. I like that - and I still do even with my slight modification.)

    It does appear that pocket carry (probably with any holster made) will be limited by certain kinds of pants and be easier with others. My jeans, for instance, leave a great deal of the handle visible unless I am really careful how I position it.

    I’ll keep working on my carry methods over time – that’s part of the challenge.

    I do believe that my normal way of carry will be one of two ways. The first is with a belly band when wearing a silk pullover under a sport coat (easy to pull shirt up and access – especially if I leave a “ shirt tab” over the handle of the gun). I really like this method for great cover. I wear a very thin “wife beater” t-shirt between the belly band and my skin for comfort.

    My second method is with a traditional I.W.B. holster (FIST #19). I will wear it inside the pants or between the pants and the belt as the particular pants dictate.
     
  18. DAdams

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    Pocket Carry Pants

    I really don't have an issue with "fallout" hence most everything I have is ok for pocket carry.

    The Landers for those who may be having "issues" might be the answer.
    It's nice to have two pockets. A normal one and a carry pocket. The zipper can remain in the open position with normal hand in pocket routine, or if you like the outer pocket could be used. All I can say is they are worth a try. Not expensive, go to a Gander Mountain or Dicks or Sportsman Warehouse and try a pair on.
    I also like them because they have no elastic in the waistband and don't have the Tacticool, many pocket cargo thing going on. Just one other small pocket for a folder or flashlight.

    Here is one more reason, I can carry BOTH the 340 and Seecamp 380 on the right hand side
    simultaneously.

    5.11 Gear
    http://511tacticaldirect.com/5-11-pants-and-shorts.html

    Woolrich has CC wear
    http://www.bowerstactical.com/store/woolrich-elite-series-m-59.html?gclid=CPGghIyQqZMCFQQ1gQodun9WoA

    Searching this thread, we have covered this topic before and there are references to companys who make blue jeans and canvas wear to facillitate concealed carry.
     
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  19. gonnagetmine

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    Hi all,

    I just got a new M&P 340, this was my experience:

    Ordered the gun from www.shootersjax.com for $625 shipped, paid by CC. Great transaction.

    Picked up the gun from my dealer, dry fired it about 100x, and all of a sudden, the trigger STOPPED WORKING! The trigger would pull back all the way to the end of the trigger guard, but would fail to break. It felt like I was just pulling a DA trigger half-way and letting up.

    I was pretty pissed, called customer service, who repeatedly told me to "try shooting it with live ammo" before I came to any conclusions. After I insisted that a trigger that doesn't break will not somehow magically break just because the cylinder is loaded, the guy sent me a UPS packing slip.

    3 weeks later (today), I got the gun back. The note said that the trigger and hammer were replaced. I've been dry firing the **** out of it, and the same problem has not recurred.

    I'll give you guys an update after I've been to the range. Got some Speer Lawman 158gr .38+P and some Double Tap 125gr Speer Gold Dot .357 Mag.

    Got a Safariland Comp 1 speedloader and a Mika holster coming.

    Other than the whole trigger thing, I love the gun. The size and weight is awesome, I just hope it handles the Double Tap .357 okay. XS front sight is great, especially since I have the Big Dots on all my other guns.

    Question: I have pretty long, skinny hands, and the stock grip just doesn't feel right. Been thinking about a Hogue Monogrip and Pachmayr Compac, but don't want to compromise size and weight too much. Can anybody comment on these in comparison to each other and in comparison to the stock grip, regarding size/weight/benefit?

    Thanks.
     
  20. DAdams

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    Welcome. Unfortunate your new S&W 340 experience. That's two 340s recently that have showed up on THR with issues.
    I had a similar experience with a NIB 642 a couple years ago.
    I guess good help and or parts are hard to come by?? :confused:

    You should be good to go from hear on out. :scrutiny:

    On the grips, since they are relatively inexpensive I would try as many of the synthetics and required until you find one that is quasi comfortable.

    The Hogue Monogrips are wonderful but somewhat long for pocket carry. If you plan to IWB/OWB or wear a shirt out while pocket carrying I don't think you can beat the HM. I never got around to any others, since I am happy with the 405 CTs.
    It's worth buying a set of HM just to see what the 340 can really do, and do so well.
     
  21. colt1903

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    Check out the Altamont Grips at http://www.shop.dandjgunrepair.com/main.sc
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    I don't have a set (yet) so I can't give you any opinion on them but they look good and appear to offer a little more to hang onto.
     
  22. The Annoyed Man

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    Crap!

    If I had known about this pistol, I might have bought it instead of my 642. Now I've got to go buy another gun. :mad:

    :D
     
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    Colt-

    Those are some fancy azz grips. Certainly suitable for church and a BBQ.
    They do have some serious relief to hold on to! I just can't seem to get behind the wood stuff though, pretty, but not me. Maybe some day when I drink the 1911 CoolAid.

    The Annoyed Man-

    See now you are annoyed and living up to your name. ;) Even if you buy a 340 after your X42 it still won't be your last and you will have to buy another, and another.....:evil: You can Run, but you can't hide. :uhoh:

    Don't make me post the picture of my 642 and 340 again.

    BTW I convinced my wife she needed an 642 for her nightstand. I put CT 405s on it and now it's hers. Don't you know someone (in the family) who needs some personal protection of their very own? ;)
     
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    I bought a 642 for my wife even before I bought my own. Hers has the CT grips. BTW, I drank the 1911 CoolAid a long time ago, and I own 3 of them currently. In fact, my regular carry piece is a Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II. However, I do like the snubbies, and the 642 goes very nicely into a pocket; so when I don't want to hassle snapping on a holster and magazine carriers, the little S&W works just great for me. But that 340 is just plain bad ass, and I must have one.
     
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