M&Pc or G26???

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I checked M-PPistol.com and I found two threads about broken strikers. ONe was started by a guy by the name of CK1 (CKONE, same guy?). That doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist but I would suggest it is a lot more rare than suggested. Glock has also redesigned a few of its parts to address failings. I wouldn't fear the reliability of my M&P any more than I would a Glock. Mine is an earlier model with over 5000 rounds through it. I haven't had any problems other than a slide stop spring that has lost a little tension. S&W is fixing that. Other than that I have had a total of 1 stoppage in over 5000 rounds. I can live with that.
 
Does anyone know how the barrel height of the M&Pc compares to the Glock's 1.26''? I haven't asked that question yet and I guess that's one more thing that will help in the decision. A lower bore axis is just going to benefit me in all realms of shooting, I think.
 
Wow, I took the time to read the thread CKONE started at MP-Pistol.com and in the thread on December 30th (before he posted his BS here) he wrote:

Look, didn't mean to get people all riled up here...

I like my M&P, I think it's lame that you need a snap cap to dry-fire them or else you break the striker unlike what i'm used to, too bad I had to find out the hard way during the week the only place on earth I can get the part replaced is shut down, no doubt S&W will send me a new striker.

I'll just be sure and ask S&W for a spare so I'll have it if/when I need it and get some snap caps from now on.

He admitted that he was dry firing WITHOUT snap caps and his striker broke. This was BEFORE his posts here where he claims the striker will break even if you do use snap caps and is such a damning design flaw of the M&P. I hate to tell you but there a LOT of weapons that can be damaged by dry firing without snap caps. Of course he says he dry fired his Glock "HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES" without damage. What a crock. Of the few guys who posted about broken strikers all of them admitted to extensive dry firing where they either didn't use snap caps at all or only used them "sometimes". One guy, apparently a buddy of CKONE, claims he breaks them all them time dry firing WITH smap caps and keeps a handful of spare strikers in his bag. What BS. Why would you keep a gun like that? From what I read he also has a rep as an M&P basher. I wouldn't assign any credibility to either of them.

You can check GlockTalk and find guys that have buggered up their strikers by dry firing without caps too. Its jsut a dumb practice. Don't blame the gun for a dumb operator.
 
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I wouldn't fear the reliability of my M&P any more than I would a Glock.

I wouldn't either, although I wouldn't trust any specific pistol of any make and model with my life--even a revolver--unless I had tested it thoroughly first.

Does anyone know how the barrel height of the M&Pc compares to the Glock's 1.26''? I haven't asked that question yet and I guess that's one more thing that will help in the decision. A lower bore axis is just going to benefit me in all realms of shooting, I think.

I've seen this measurement on Glock's website, and despite the diagram (which is inaccurate with regard to their own measurement!) I'm not sure precisely what they're measuring. Rest assured that the M&P9c's bore axis is quite low, at least comparable to that of the G26. The M&P9c's slide is not as tall, from what I remember, and I don't think that its frame is any thicker between the grip and slide.
 
I've got both and like both. However, the Glock 26 is slightly smaller, lighter, and more concealable. According to my crude kitchen scale the Glock 26 is 26 oz. loaded and the M&P9c is 31 oz. loaded. IMO, the five ounce difference is significant when it comes to daily carry.
I'd recommend the Glock 26 for everyday carry. But, I will say that the M&P9c is a better multi-purpose gun since it has a light rail and better ergonomics for most people (especially people with larger hands/fingers).
1st Choice - Glock 26 - especially for everyday carry
Very close 2nd - M&P9c - but my first choice if I only had one pistol
 
I really need to get my paws on a M&Pc ASAP! It'd be nice if I could shoot the G26 at the same time with the Pearce Grip/Mag extensions, just to feel the difference. I'm all for supporting the homeland and if the M&Pc is the better gun... I will rock the thing to NO end and love it the entire time =)
I have the holsters all picked out and now just have to find the gun I'm going to fill them with daily!
Good to know that the barrel sits pretty low on the Smith too.
I know there will always be a basher/hater of whatever topic in question... just gotta sift through the chaff in order to get the grain :) Thanks for the advice and help EVERYONE!
 
I find that a Glock or an M&P do not differ significantly in reliability. I have owned both, and both always went bang dry and straight out of the box.

I think the only two significant differences are the ergonomics and the sights. I find both to be superior on the M&P when stock. That being said, some prefer the Glock ergos, and it is easy to replace the Glock sights, which I think are the weakest part of the whole Glock design.

That being said, locally an M&P is $599, whereas you can get a comparable Glock for about $480-520. That's just about the cost of aftermarket Glock sights, if you prefer the Glock ergos.

So to me it comes down to which feels better in your hand.
 
Discount programs???

Does S&W offer any sort of discounts like Glock does with their GSSF program? As a member of that I get to purchase 1 Glock a year for LE cost, which lowers the price significantly!
I agree the S&W is pretty sweet stock... I prefer the sights and think the interchangeable backstraps were a good idea, but the G26 with the Pearce grip extension fits my hand better, but I do agree the sights leave you wanting/expecting more.
I need to find a range that has each of these pistols and borrow my friend's Pearce grip/mag extensions ASAP!
I need a new CCW!!!
 
I like my g26 but if you ever plan on reloading or casting your own ammo from lead then get the m&p or you will have to buy a new barrel(for casting). I also think that the M&P is a much better looking gun and they have interchangeable backstraps.
 
Discount programs???
Does S&W offer any sort of discounts like Glock does with their GSSF program? As a member of that I get to purchase 1 Glock a year for LE cost, which lowers the price significantly!
I agree the S&W is pretty sweet stock... I prefer the sights and think the interchangeable backstraps were a good idea, but the G26 with the Pearce grip extension fits my hand better, but I do agree the sights leave you wanting/expecting more.
I need to find a range that has each of these pistols and borrow my friend's Pearce grip/mag extensions ASAP!
I need a new CCW!!!

Check out Buds Police Supply. The price you see is the shipped price, and the LE program M&P's come with 3 mags.

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I sent an email to the S&W support folks asking them if dry-firing an M&P will damage it. They replied that dry-firing will NOT damage the weapon. I don't know where a previous poster got his information about M&P dry-fire damage. BTW, I've been dry-firing my M&P quite a bit. So far it has been 100% reliable.
 
The M&P is better looking if that means anything. What I like about my Glock 26 is that if you ever need to replace any parts, you can break a Glock down to the very last pin in a matter of about 5 minutes with a simple punch and the parts are cheap and readily available. The design is elegantly simple any you can see what makes it so reliable.
 
I sent an email to the S&W support folks asking them if dry-firing an M&P will damage it. They replied that dry-firing will NOT damage the weapon. I don't know where a previous poster got his information about M&P dry-fire damage. BTW, I've been dry-firing my M&P quite a bit. So far it has been 100% reliable.

I think there used to be too many instances of strikers breaking early on, but that's been acknowledged and resolved as far as I can tell. Every pistol is going to have issues from time to time, more often related to quality control than design flaws. Lest this would seem like an excuse, yes, even Glocks have issues with quality control sometimes, too, such as the well-known "pignose" issue (to be fair, many M&Ps have reverse pignose--neither problem affects function) and the more significant one years ago involving slide guide rails breaking off with normal use (this one was the result of a design change and a lack of testing).

What I like about my Glock 26 is that if you ever need to replace any parts, you can break a Glock down to the very last pin in a matter of about 5 minutes with a simple punch and the parts are cheap and readily available. The design is elegantly simple any you can see what makes it so reliable.

Well, the M&P is almost as simple, but not quite, true. However, the parts of the M&P that are difficult to disassemble and replace, such as the extractor, also tend to be incredibly reliable. For every instance, per capita, of a striker failure in an M&P (easily replaced), I'm sure you'd find at least one extractor failure or manufacturing defect on a Glock (happens somewhat frequently, actually--S&W simply has a superior, well proven extractor design that they've used in many pistols).
 
Having owned both the M&P 9c, and the Glock 26. I can safely say I traded the 26 away for a 17 with 6 extra magazines (wanted a full size 9mm for IPSC backup). When presented with the choice to keep one and sell/trade the other, I kept the M&P. I really like it, and shoot the 9 Pro in IPSC. Either one will serve you well, and you wont be able to out perform the firearm. Good luck...


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