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M1 Garand ammo

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by emmie, May 23, 2006.

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  1. emmie

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    can't find M2 ball,and not cmp member,so what factory fmj ammo can I use in my rifle?
    will be reloading,but want a benchmark of how these shoot first.

    emmie
     
  2. Marion Cobretti

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    Can't remember which offhand, but either Cheaperthandirt or Sportsmans guide had some Korean m2 in stock.
    If you are shooting a bunch, it might be worth it to look into CMP. I just bought a case of Lake City over the weekend and it came out to 20 cents a round.
     
  3. monsternav

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    There is no such thing as CMP "membership". There are some very easy requirements to meet buy a rifle from them, but you can buy anything else off of their site (ammo included). They are selling some Olympic ammo for resonable prices besides the Lake City.
     
  4. carlrodd

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    a little off-topic, but.....

    i have a box of ammo that someone gave me for my garand. the box says m-2 .30 cal, and has korean script on it. the bottom of the brass gives no indication as to what it is. is this indeed 30-06 ammunition? i certainly won't be shooting it until i'm sure.
     
  5. monsternav

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    The Koreans made lots of .30-06. What does the headstamp read?
     
  6. ocabj

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    The CMP does not sell Olympic ammunition. They sell Greek HXP M2 ball. There is a huge difference.

    HXP = good. Olympic = bad.
     
  7. MechAg94

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    The two Korean headstamps I know of are KA and PS. The KA is 70's production and corrosive. The PS is later production (80's?) and supposedly non-corrosive.

    I haven't seen PS head stamp for sale in a while.


    Either way, call the CMP and see what you need to do to order ammo. I bet it is not much at all. Maybe verify age only. It would be worth it to get some relatively inexpensive quality ammo.
     
  8. monsternav

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    ocabj:
    :eek:
    I know that. For the first time in my life I typed faster than I could think :) (I don't think very fast, and usually type even slower).
    Doh!
     
  9. Sunray

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    Join the Garand Collectors Assoc.($25 per year, I think) or load your own ammo. Go to and shoot the required matches anyway. You'll meet lots of great people and shooting matches is great fun. Placing doesn't matter.
    Reloading makes the endless search for ammo go away. Use bullets weighing between 150 and 180 grains with IMR 4895 or IMR4064. Hunting bullets weighing 165 grains seem to give the best hunting accuracy. 168 grain match bullets(match bullets are not cheap) for target shooting. Full length resizing every timeis required. No big deal Just get FL dies.
    "...is this indeed 30-06 ammunition?..." Yep, but clean as if it's corrosive.
     
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    The Koreans made lots of .30-06. What does the headstamp read?

    it reads:

    PS
    79
     
  11. brentwal

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    PMC makes .30-06 M2 ball ammo. The stock # is 3006C IIRC.
     
  12. monsternav

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    PS 79 = Poongsan Metal Corporation 1979.

    Generally held to be non-corrosive according to all I have read (this is internet knowledge though, treat it for what you paid for it). Personally, I would would clean as if corrosive, unless you get an answer from a more knowledgable person.
     
  13. cracked butt

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    If you have the means to reload, it is the way to go with the M1. M2 ball ammo will never shoot anywhere near as well as a good handload that you work up.
     
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    What's the deal with buying non-firearms from CMP? I looked through the website but couldn't find a definite answer.

    I'd love to get a few tins of that HXP...
     
  15. Swampy

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    To be eligible to buy items (non-firearm) from the CMP you still must be a member of a CMP affiliate Club or org. There is a full listing of them on the CMP website at http://www.odcmp.com

    No, the NRA is not a CMP affiliate.

    Yes, just about every state Rifle association is......

    Best regards,
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    Garands forever
     
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    do you know what grain that is? the round is larger than the remington stuff i have.
     
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    Going to a Memorial Day Garand Shoot

    Will be taking handloads built on FA61 Match brass with IMR 4895 (backed off 5% from max) & Sierra 165gr BT bullets. = It's what the rifle likes:D
     
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    Hehe its not always so easy to qualify for cmp. We legal immigrants in the US get shafted.
     
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    Heres some of my new stuff.
     

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  21. Big Larry

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    I'm curious. I've been contemplating getting an M-1 from CMP. M-1 Garand is 7.62, right? Isn't that a 30-06? Can regular Remington 30-06 ammo that you'd use for hunting, be used in an M-1 Garand??

    If not, what are the reasons? Don't be hard on me, I'd just like to know.
     
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    Big Lary, Yes, the M-1 Garand is .30-06 (well some are 7.62 Nato). The thing is that the port pressure to function the Garand properly must be within a limited range. Most commercial loads for the 30-06 are not at all within this pressure range. Many people have bent their operating rods by not being careful to shoot ammo that duplicates the pressures of M-2 ball ammo. IMR 4895 and IMR 4064 are two of the powders used to duplicate the loads the Garand is designed to shoot. It's not just overall pressure that's involved. The speed the pressure peaks is more important... A load with a slow burning power will damage the Garand.
     
  23. MechAg94

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    The PS headstamp ammo I have was advertised as "non-corrosive" when I bought it last summer from AIM Surplus.

    The M1 Garand shoots 30.06. However, it was designed for WWII military ammo. Higher pressure hunting loads used in many of today's bolt actions can damange the op rod or so I hear. I have heard that most hunting ammo can be used, but stick with ~150 grain bullets. Others can get more specific.
     
  24. Jmurman

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    You can join CMP through The Garand Collectors Assoc. Dues are $25 per year and the quarterly magazine is great!

    To qualify there are many state clubs/associations that has already been posted. Now, if you're former military a DD214 will surfice. The process for buying a Garand is pretty siomple and straight forward. Print off their order form and go to your bank and get your DL notorized.

    I haven't bought any ammo from CMP yet, but being a member, it shouldn't be a big deal.

    The Greek is sold with en blocs and bandoleers and is very reasonable...as is the Lake City (without clips or bandoleers)

    Enjoy the Garand, it's a mighty fine shootin iron.
     
  25. Big Larry

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    Okay, so modern hunting cartridges are too "hot" for the M-1. Makes sense. That's what I needed to know. Thanks.

    One more question: With CMP, what grade is best for a "nice" shootable weapon?
     
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