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M1 Garand Bolt Action

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by TheDisturbed1, May 3, 2007.

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  1. TheDisturbed1

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    My grandfather has a Springfield M1 Garand Bolt Action...

    Its been a good long while since I saw it, but it IS a genuine Garand with a leaf sight.

    Do you guys have any info on this type of rife? Is it a custom job or did Springfield make Bolt Actions during or shortly after the WWII era?

    It is 30-06 and he has used it multiple times for moose hunting... so it is still carries 100% of the Garand reputation.
     
  2. Joe Demko

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    Springfield armory did make bolt actions that were used during WWII and yours may be one of them. It isn't a Garand, though. The Garand is a self-loading rifle named after the guy who designed it.
     
  3. TheDisturbed1

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    maybe the action was replace in this one... i remember seeing Garand
     
  4. Byron Quick

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    Do a google search on Garand. Find a site with close up pictures of the action of a Garand. I seriously doubt that such a modification could be accomplished.
     
  5. Jeremy2171

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    "Garand" is NOT written anywhere on the M1 Rifle.

    Sounds like you have a sporterized M1903 Springfield.
     
  6. Dr. Dickie

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    Yeah, Jeremy beat me to it. None of my Garands say Garand on them anywhere, as that was not the military name for the weapon.
     
  7. TheDisturbed1

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    i definately need another look at it now

    :p
     
  8. Khornet

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    Garands HAVE been modified

    to a straight-pull manually operated action. Look at the cover of Jim Thompson's book on the M1. There's one next to an unmodified rifle.

    The hand movement to cycle the action is much like a bolt rifle, except no lifting of the bolt. Maybe that's what you saw. But it won't be marked 'Garand' anywhere. Just U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1.
     
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    I have had the pleasure of handling but not firing a Garand rifle that had been modified to straight pull manually operated.
    Barrel was cut to 20" and recrowned, all the gas assembly and excess operating rod length removed as was all the handguard materials.
    The gunsmith who made the rifle installed an 03A3 front sight and band and kept the rear sight assembly standard.
    Wood was checkered and it was a neat looking rifle.
     
  11. 30Cal

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    With that short little oprod handle (and the camming surface which further reduces its effectiveness), I imagine if you're loads aren't well tuned, you'd have to operate it like a pogo stick. A sticky case means you get to stand on the oprod handle and jump.

    Ty
     
  12. Mr White

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    They do make a a gas cylinder lock screw valve that allows all gas to bleed off w/o working the action. Guys use it to make their Garands essentailly a bolt action rifle to hunt in states that don't allow hunting with a semiauto. Pa for example.

    Could it have been that?
     
  13. MuzzleBlast

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    Why the hell would anyone do that?!?! :what:
     
  14. Marion Cobretti

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    How about a pic.

    All of the above posters are correct. An original GI M1 does not say Garand anywhere on it.

    The receiver says: "U.S. Rifle Caliber .30 M1"
     
  15. Vern Humphrey

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    The mention of a leaf sight is a key. The Garand sight is controlled by two knobs, one on either side. The Springfield has a folding mid-sight, a "leaf."

    Springfield did not make '03 Springfield bolt actions during WWII. The tooling was shipped to Remington, which made '03s under contract. Remington engineers proposed cost-cutting measures to the Army, which increased production and resulted in the '03A3. Smith-Corona also produced '03A3s during WWII.
     
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    Sounds like you're confusing a Garand with an '03. If it is semi-auto, looks like a Garand but has a leaf sight, it could be a Japanese Type 5, their attempt to copy the Garand.

    If it's a Type 5 and it's in good shape I'll trade you a nice Garand for it. :evil:
     
  17. BobCav

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    Arctic, I just got these 3 last week from the CMP. Top to bottom is semiauto M1 Garand (circa 1943), bolt action M1903/A3 Remington (Circa 1943), bolt action M1903 Springfield (circa 1930). That help any?

    GroupR.jpg
     
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    Nobody has mentioned the 1917 yet !
     
  19. glockman19

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    BobCav,

    Nice springfield Collection.

    Arctic, Sounds like a M1903
     
  20. TheDisturbed1

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    the springfield '03 looks really familiar... but i really need another look at it to be sure
     
  21. BobCav

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    Thanks, glockman! Those are right out of the CMP boxes last week, not even cleaned up. They look a lot better now. The Danish FG M1 stock is a little rough, but I have some denatured alcohol and 0000 steel wool standing by!
     
  22. DMK

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    BobCav,

    Bought the whole set, did ya?

    Nice! :)

    Now all you need is the carbine.
     
  23. BobCav

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    Hehe...DMK, the order is in to CMP on the second day, should get my 21 day e-mail later this week! Gotta have the set! Now for a M1928 and a BAR! (yeah right!)
     
  24. Eightball

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    Semi auto BAR's exist, as do the M1928s.
    A place that sells the BARS LINK
    A review on one is HERE

    Site for a semi-auto 1928: LINK
     
  25. BobCav

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    Thanks eightball! Great links.... (Honey, I need $10,000!!)
     
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