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M1 vs FN49

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by oldsoldier, Jan 20, 2008.

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  1. oldsoldier

    oldsoldier Member

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    Which do you think is better and why? I have both. The FN holds two more rounds and can be topped off without a problem, something you can't do with the M1. The M1 is more....robust.
     
  2. LeibstandarteAdH

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    Ill go with the SVT-40.
     
  3. herohog

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    Never had the M1 but my FN49 in 8mm Mauser ATE brass... I mean, it took pie shaped chunks out of the rims and bent the hell out of the brass on ejection no matter what the gas port was set at! :what: Not so good for reloading. :p I bought a cutts type compensator for it from a guy in NY (DiGenarrio or something like that?) and it really tamed the recoil at the expense of LOUD! Other than that, I loved it!

    PS: That 14" bayonet is just right for finishing off those feisty 2 liter bottles!
    [​IMG]
     
  4. highorder

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    I'll take the M1, for the best sights, and the most robust magazine/clip combination.
     
  5. ACP230

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    Although I've only handled FN49s, I prefer the M1.
    Better feel to me, and more parts available.
    My M1 was also cheaper, when I bought it, than the 49 was.
     
  6. Ian

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    I'll also take the M1, because en bloc clips are IMO better than stripper clips (and not that it really matters in any real situation, but I can top off my M1 just fine with loose rounds).
     
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    Let me preface my comments by saying that I have a Venezuelan FN-49 (7mm) and a Garand...

    If it's important to you, the Garand can keep up a considerably faster volume of fire than the FN-49. With it's 8-rd en-bloc clip, the Garand is instantly reloaded and ready to continue firing. The FN-49 requires it's non-detachable magazine to be singly loaded or loaded from two 5-rd stripper clips, which is much slower...

    I've never been much concerned about the 'problem' with not being able to 'top off' a Garand. Keep some loaded en-bloc clips close at hand and just reload the gun when it ejects the empty clip.

    The FN-49 one-piece firing pin is known for it's fragility. All sources recommend that one-piece firing pins be replaced with two-piece ones.

    Both rifles are about the same size and weight...

    Although I really love the FN-49, I'd pick an M1 Garand for real use if the choice was between the two...

    Forrest
     
  8. Float Pilot

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    I have had both. The M-1 was more accurate. In some part this may have been to the vastly superior sights and longer sight radius.
    The FN-49 (had one in 7x57mm and 30-06) could be topped off and were fairly fast to load with stripper clips.

    My M-1s would occasionally overheat and stop working it you rapid fired 60 or 80 rounds non-stop. (depending on how or if you greased the op rod and roller with the old issue grease which is great stuff) The FNs would not.

    The balance on the M1 was slightly superior.

    The M-1 was designed around one caliber. The FN was made to be manufactured in various calibers for world markets.

    The M1 later evolved into the M-14. The FN evolved into the FN-FAL.

    I personally prefer the M1.
     
  9. Vaarok

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    The FN is a superior mechanism, easier to strip, and easier to clean.

    The M-1 is faster to reload and has more finely adjustable sights.

    If all FN-49s used twenty-round detachable mags like the Argies, there would be no contest, but the fixed mag and two-stripper-clip reloading process is slower than a large-capacity detachable magazine or an en-bloc clip.

    That said, for range use, they're still a glorious and well-built rifle.
     
  10. Neo-Luddite

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    The M1 later evolved into the M-14.


    The M-1 Beget the M-14; and the sire yet sits on the throne. The offspring shows promiss, but some regard it yet a whelp. Time will tell...
     
  11. R.W.Dale

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    PAH! I'll see your SVT and raise you an AG42b
     
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    The SVT40 was not really designed to have a detachable magazine. yes, you can detach it - but it was really meant to be stripper clip fed.
     
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    Then why'd they issue every trooper with two spare mags?
     
  15. PercyShelley

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    How similar is the FN49 to an SVT-40?
     
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    Depends on what you're comparing...

    Both use a gas piston system and tilting bolt that are very similar. As a matter of fact, several articles have been written about the Russians getting the plans for the FN49 from Saive (or others), and several others have claimed that the opposite occurred...

    Both rifles fire full power rifle cartridges (.30-06, 7x57mm, 8x57mm and others for the FN49, with later conversions in Argentina to 7.62x51mm NATO) and 7.62x54mmR for the SVT/AVT-40.

    Both were made in select fire variants, but not many of either were produced partly because full auto from a 10 rd mag doesn't make a lot of sense...

    Both are full size rifles, although the FN49 is somewhat more robust and the SVT-40 more slender and lighter built.

    In terms of quality of workmanship and finish, there is no comparison...

    Forrest
     
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    Why do you guys always have to compare? Both are fine rifles, and I do happen to have an Argentine Navy FN-49, with spare magazines. I would always prefer it. But on the other hand, a Berreta BM-59 is essentially the equivalent, i.e. a Garand with detachable magazines. Some of these even had folding stocks. As for other characteristics, the Garand is easier to gunsmith and parts are still cheap, and the rifle is far more available. On the other hand my FN-49 is rarer and thus more valuable. 308 is more available than 30-06, and withan adjustable gas system, the FN-49 should be more tolerant of different ammunition.
     
  18. m1dbob1944

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    Guys,
    Bothn are fun to shoot and I like bringing both to the range. I love the Garand but the FN-49 is a very close second
     
  19. C'Thulhu

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    Mas 49

    :d
     
  20. m1dbob1944

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    I've never shot one of those. How is it? How's the recoil and muzzle flash on it?
     
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    Bad zombie thread. Back in the ground.
     
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