Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by LoneGoose, Mar 14, 2018.
I am still fairly new to the Windham 308. but i am liking it more and more. i am used to the controls on the ar platform. If i had to choose one, it would be the ar10. cheaper mags and alot easier to mount scopes and sights. Pretty much the reason why i got the ar10. I hated the setup with a scope on the M1A.
CMP Service Grade M1 Garand.
Forged receiver/machined parts.
They also sell'em chambered in .308.
That's because you don't stand to lose piles of money over it. I'm sure you'd want your intellectual property protected.
I agree and my point was that inevitably the subject comes up in forum discussions and the common reference term is an AR 15. Eventually somebody will point out that the naming convention is owned by Colt who did pay good money to Armalite Rifle to buy the name. That said to argue it over and over again in a gun forum just gets a little old. So in a gun forum I really don't see Colt losing any money to anyone else over a naming right which they own and have owned since around 1959.
If you're tired of people pointing out the mis-use of model designations, such as AR-10, stop mis-using model designations and stop defending the practice.
An AR10 is cheaper but the cost difference is less than you may think. Of course you can buy a DPMS panther 16 inch entry level rifle for less than $800 but that rifle isn't up to the leveling quality in a M1A. You would need to compare the cost of a mid level AR10 to have a more accurate apples to apples comparison.
I found the AR10 to still be cheaper but having a case of overARitis in my safe I went M1A.
In truth though I got both because I snagged a Aero stripped lower that I'm going to build while my son builds a AR15.
Standard - $1100 - Buy it now
Scout Squad - $1200 Buy it now.
Standard - $1200 w/ accessories - Buy it now.
I was watching this one that sold for $1075.
I'd add a nice GI wood stock from Treeline (bought out Fred's M14 Stocks Inventory)
I actually just sold that rifle to a buddy the other day, not because I didn't like the platform, but because I want to try the Browning BAR DBM in 308 and I needed to sell a gun to fund it. I haven't gotten it yet but if it shoots anything like my BAR in 30-06 then it' money well spent.
I bought an AR15 (M4 variety) primarily for nostalgia reasons.
It’s a copy too, because I didn’t want to pay $30k for the real deal
Have a few friends who own the "real deal" and while firing a M14 or M16 in full auto is fun as well as nostalgic I am not about to run out and buy one. Last fall I invested 30K in a garage which took precedence over any guns.
My Socom has one, too...
Yeah, I had to hunt one of those down. A classic M14 component
Had em done em then I got into collecting M1 Garands & they all went away to trade for Garands. I seldom ever trade or sell any of my firearms but the reloading just
wore on me, & the AR didn't shoot military ammo well where the M1A was very good.
The only one I miss is the M1A which is the best of the 2, it cost twice as much because it is twice the rifle.
The AR10 is like the AR15, modular & composite, the M1A has wood which makes
it a real rifle to me.
I just got tired of reloading huge amounts at a time because accuracy s more important to me than chain smoking.
But the M1A is more than a match for accuracy if you know how to reload. The National Match M1A
is a must & I found that open sights was actually fun to shoot. I did a high dollar scope & mount
on it which made it unbeatable, but took all that off & traded it for a Garand that shoots very
accurate & looks great. I just love old stuff better.
Had a 308 & a 7mm08 which was great but first thing you will encounter is not every magazine is
created equal for the AR10.
I've had 5 different "AR-10" model rifles; KAC Stoner SR-25, late 90's model Armalite AR-10, (not to be confused with the original 50's era AR-10) a DPMS LR-308, SiG 716 DMR and last year I built a Spikes "Jack-308" ... None of the uppers would fit any of the other receivers, the bolts wouldn't fit the other barrels.
The the KAC was a like shooting a laser, easily shot 1" groups at 300, you could make dandelions vaporize at 300!
On the other hand I could never find a load the Armalite liked, it wouldn't shoot under 2.25" MOA at any distance over 100.
The DPMS shot better than the Armalite but not much, but the fit & finish was much nicer.
The SiG DMR is about a .65" MOA gun, great fit & finish ... I've heard people complain that it's heavy but not that I've noticed.
Lastly, the Spikes is the only one in 6.5 Creedmoore, it's also the most expensive as it was built with JP Barrel/gas block/handguard/Bolt/captured buffer, MagPul PRS, Geissele SD-E, flat bow trigger ... It's a laser too shooting 3/8" at 100 and under 2.5" at 500.
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