Made In Brazil?

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I just went down to my FFL to pick up my new Springfield 1911. Says on the tag that it is made in Brazil? What is up with that? Who makes it for them?
 
What?

Springfields are made in Brazil! :neener:

If this surprises you, you might want to research the history of the company. It is not the same Springfield Armory that supplied the US military (Kinda like Winchester).
 
I really had no idea that they were made in Brazil. I assumed differently and I guess it proves the old saying about assumptions. :rolleyes:
 
who cares where its made?

you bought a fine piece!! im sure youll be just as happy with it made in brazil as if it where made in china!:neener:
 
I'd have a lot more confidence in anything made in Brazil than in China. China is communists with state industries (Norinco) cranking out fast and cheap.

Brazil's been putting out a lot of good guns, and Argentina used to make real Colts on real Colt machinery, the Sistemas.
 
Imbel, one of the world's best firearms manufacturers, makes all the Springfield 1911's. According to Deb in the SA Custom Shop, all "factory" guns are assembled in Brazil. The TRP's get some fitting but according to SA, they are a loaded with some features to make them look like the Pro. The Pro is completely assembled in SA's Custom Shop on oversize frames and slides made by Imbel in Brazil.

Robert Reese, the father of the two brothers who now own SA, bought the rights to the name Springfield Armory in 1974 so he could market the clone M1A's that he was assembling. The two brothers, David and Dennis, began making mil spec 1911's in '83 or '84.
 
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Sure they are...

And next you will say that the Springfield XDs aren't made here in the US but somewhere like... I dunno, Bosnia or somesuch.
 
And the xd's are croation made. originally known as the hs2000. but springfield bought the rights to the weapon, and they have been marketing it for some time now, and doing quite well at it. that is why that yoy get such a quality weapon for such a great price. and if there is a problem you've got springfields great customer service to back up everything they make!
 
The only thing I don't like about the XD line is that SA will not sell any parts. If something breaks. You gotta send the pistol in, even minor things like say a firing pin spring, extractor, etc. They might send you a recoil spring but I'm not sure. If the repair is covered by the warranty SA will pay freight both ways though.
 
I'd have a lot more confidence in anything made in Brazil than in China. China is communists with state industries (Norinco) cranking out fast and cheap.
The Norinco 1911s that we can no longer get were some of the finest 1911s around and sold for a great price. Many were used as bases for custom pistols.
 
Can someone please explain why my Springfield 1911 says Croatia on the breech if it's made in Brazil? :confused:
 
Wesker,

I really doubt that any of the SA 1911's are made anywhere other than Brazil.

Please post a pic.

Steve
 
And next you will say that the Springfield XDs aren't made here in the US but somewhere like... I dunno, Bosnia or somesuch.

Croatia. AFAIK, the M1A is the only Springfield firearm made here.

Springfield's forged Imbel Frames and slides
are part of just about every 1911 they make from GI, to Operator, to Custom.

I'm not 100% on this, but IIRC the GI, Mil-Spec and Loaded models have cast frames. Don't have one to look at, though-I buy Kimber and Colt.
 
Actually, some of the Springfield frames are forged and some are investment castings,i.e. stainless steel versions and the high capacity frames.
The Mil-Spec and Basic pistols are assembled in Brazil and the custom guns are fitted and assembled here in Illinois.
 
If you find yourself singing the bassanova ala Carlos Antonio Jobim, you have the Brazilian model. Frankly, the idea of a Brazilian model is rather appealing! I always liked brunettes.
 
I wouldnt worry about it, my personal 1911and theones we rent on the range have had less issues and RMA numbers than the Kimbers we rent.

Springfield issues:
Mainspring went poopy after a few thousand rounds.
Triger travel set screw shot itself loose.
Milspec Stainless is ugly

Kimber Issues (Internal Extractror):
Cracked Frame - Stainless Procarry II
Mainspring Housing Broke after sliding off a bench (replaced only after wewould sent the gun in to getanother plastic housing)
Kimber Replaced the hammer in the TLE/RL2 after it returned from getting it's slide replaced. They said the hammer was too light for the gun on the packing slip


Kimber Issues (External Extractor)
Extractor Issues - TlE/Rl2, TLE (Both replaced by kimber)


Granted we have 5 kimbers in the range vs 2 springfield. Those issues, cost, and that we have to clean the kimbers more often lead me to by the Springfield, but that is my personal experience take it with a grain of salt.
 
I'm not 100% on this, but IIRC the GI, Mil-Spec and Loaded models have cast frames. Don't have one to look at, though-I buy Kimber and Colt.

I AM 100% sure that All of the current, standard platform production 1911's by Springfield are built on forged frames, barrels and slides. :)

The mentality is that of "superior value through volume and consistency". Not unlike the fact that most models of Nissan and Infiniti cars use the same 3.5L V6 starting at $21k on up through $38k.
 
Have you been to Brazil? Most workers make about $65 a month! They live in Shanty towns, with sewage flowing in the streets. Their money is worthless, one of the highest inflations in the West. The poor doesn't know how to read and write. You can not import anything unless you want to pay the 60% duty...You call that fair trade? It's like China, want to export to you, but no imports!!!
About quality, had a friend that bought a Taurus 357, shells went in 5 chambers, but not the 6th!!! Took 3 months for him to get it back from their warranty service center, seems they have a big one, for all the opps that get out of the factory.
I will buy guns from anywhere except Brazil. Their prices should be much lower, like Chinese guns...for the quality that you get.
 
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