Made in the usa

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  1. AJC1

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    Now that things have completely exhausted themselves in every area of the reloading market will you put in any additional effort to buy American products to strengthen our community internally. We can choose to provide demand for things made here so when global problems arise we can still meet our own needs.... primers are all made here so that's easy, but where is the power you use made. I'll admit before this current situation I never paid any attention, and I dont know if we can drive the solutions through purchases only. The only powder I know is made here is ramshot silhouette. My bullets are all American and cases almost, minus 200 Lapua and some privi.
     
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    I haven’t really considered it with reloading items. Things I pay an excise tax for I typically try to buy American. Perhaps we should make a list of where the bulk of the big reloading companies produce their stuff... and especially the ones that buy all of their stuff from China, slap a couple pieces together in America and call it American made.
     
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    I believe in a global economy
     
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    I do my best to buy "Made in the USA" no matter what the economy or political situation is. Its hard to do at times.
     
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    That... and that. I try to buy American, but sometimes I can't. I favor IMR rifle powder, yes... made in Canada, but I'm OK with that. Looking at my powder cans, H335 is made in the USA, as is Unique and SportPistol, but I'm not going to split hairs trying to figure out where they are all made. I think some H-powders were/are made in Australia... I'm sure someone has a guide out there listing country of origin. I'm OK with Canada and Australia because they are not nations trying to kill us.

    I really try to shy away from tools and other assemblies made in China, however. Aside from politics, I've found the quality and construction of most inexpensive China-sourced things to be substandard... not only on the reloading bench, but pretty much everything. Cheap is cheap.
     
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    Buying “made in Canada” means nothing at all. Can be foreign components assembled there, etc. Read the fine print in nafta and other trade agreements and you’ll see country of origin buying is difficult and perhaps intentionally so. Much is in fact from China.

    Produce and other food stuffs are also problematic. Even have to be careful with some made in USA or produced in USA or born and raised in USA.

    In principle I believe in a global economy, ex-China. If I can avoid it, I will never, ever, ever buy anything that has any ties to China. ANY! And did I say NEVER?
    Really tough to do sometimes.

    Since the Nixon reopening, the Chinese have been eating our lunch and dinner. The most aggressive intelligence collection the world has ever known and you must suspect everyone and everything. It is nearly impossible for a Chinese student for example to avoid collecting since their family is hostage back home.
    And no Chinese are permitted to even visit here without a counterbalanced hostage back home.

    As aggressive as the Soviets (now Russians) were/are they are pikers compared to China.
     
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    BE AMERICAN, BUY AMERICAN...
     
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    Take it to the next level of “own community” and quit buying online and use only local brick and mortar stores?
     
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    Most, if not all primers from Remington, Winchester, CCI, and Federal are made here. The IMR powders are made in Canada at the Valleyfield plant, which is owned by our own General Dynamics. The ball powders from Winchester and Hodgdon are made in Florida at another plant owned by General Dynamics. Most of the powders from Alliant are made in Virginia by ATK. So, Most of these items that appear to be so scarce are made right here. Thank Heavens. Most bullets are made here too. All of Ruger's products are made here. It seems to me that much of what we use in shooting is American. Good deal.
    As Charlie said, Cheap is cheap no matter where it is made. My experience is that stuff from China is just that, cheap.
    And yes, we really need to support our LGS if we want them to still be there for us.
     
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  10. Otto

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    When it comes to primers, you have little choice.
    No more Wolf, Tula, Magtech, Fiocchi etc. which had kept prices in-check and supplemented availability.
    Foreign competition isn’t necessarily bad.
     
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    Hypothetically
    If you're starting a company with a projected gain of 1 million annually using made in USA or 2 million with overseas production which would way would you chose?.
    I'm not to proud I'm taking the money.
     
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    My understanding is that all stick powders are made either in Canada, or overseas. Australia, and I believe Denmark and/or Sweden.
     
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    I do not.
     
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    Very true the most american made vehicle is a honda , ford and chevy have almost no american made parts ,
    Are we looking at where the profit goes from a product or where the product is made,
    I bought an american made washer and dryer maytag had american flag stickers on it only to read the fine print of assembled in america with foreign made parts ,
    Made in America I support 100%
    But I don't think there is any reality to it , but maybe that will change someday
     
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    I respect the sentiment, AJ, I really do. But, did you read the Hornady thread? All the US companies are producing all they can - flat out. And, we only have four domestics anyway - Federal, Winchester, CCI and Remington. My crystal ball says a year if things fly right. I'd buy S&B or Fiochhi in a heartbeat just to feed my habit. Maybe not Russian - gotta draw the line somewhere.The Philippines? Yes, please!
     
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    Incorrect, Cheddite, Fiocchi, S&B, Rio/Maxam among others are European.
     
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    Too bad; lots of great things come from a myriad of other countries - it's nice to have those choices.
     
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    Cant buy those components any where I've seen. They do sell ammunition but I'm not in that market... those companies are also not going to help keep our rights IMO
     
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    I have bought all of those companies' primers at one time or another
     
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    I have had a very nice German sports car made in Germany and picked up in Germany and blasted down autobahn at speeds I never dreamt of.

    But currently have a Kentucky built monster
     
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    I think two administrations ago that option was removed, should they become available again in a situation like were in now I would not turn my nose up at them. If cci and anything else was on the shelf I would buy those first. A few years ago I would always buy the cheapest but I will pay more now to support the home team.
     
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    And Bear Creek issued a statement;
    It had to do with identity theft by the illegals. Was the article to cast a shadow over the company? One has to decide for themselves.
     
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    Interested in quality first, country of origin is secondary.....haven't found a complete powder line that performs as well as Vihtavuori.
     
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  25. George P

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    Covid stopped the importation due to employee and material shortages. Shotgun primers were readily available as were pistol primers.
     
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