meanmrmustard
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Meh, close enough. The CZ also takes a big cue from the Sig P210, so I guess it's a hybrid theory of several successful designs. Works for me.
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I think the CZ-75 can be seen as an "evolution" of the Browning locked breech design with the addtion of DA capability. As Mr. Camp said, many others use this also, Sig, Glock, S&W, etc. I think the fact the CZ-75 somewhat resembles the Browning Hi Power cosmetically is why people think there is more of a direct lineage.
Very true. If you want a great gun for home defense, range accuracy, and concealed carry the P-01 is hard to beat as is its brother the 75D PCR. The PCR does not have a light rail but is very similar in size, weight, design, and performance.
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Hey y'all!
Thanks for all the great advice - I really do appreciate it. The more research I do, the more it sounds like the P-01 may really be the one to look for - it gets the updated tech and design, which is always good, and seems to be the basis for CZ's new lineup.
Question: Is the magazine release reversible on these? It seems like a yes and no question depending on the model. The 85 Combat specifically states a reversible mag catch, but it's not specifically mentioned on most. For those that own the P-01, is this catch changeable?
Thanks again! Keep those opinions coming.
Thanks for all the great advice - I really do appreciate it. The more research I do, the more it sounds like the P-01 may really be the one to look for - it gets the updated tech and design, which is always good, and seems to be the basis for CZ's new lineup.
Question: Is the magazine release reversible on these? It seems like a yes and no question depending on the model. The 85 Combat specifically states a reversible mag catch, but it's not specifically mentioned on most. For those that own the P-01, is this catch changeable?
Thanks again! Keep those opinions coming.
strange246
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My wife has a CZ75B and I have an all steel Witness in 9mm, and I can honestly say neither gun will EVER leave our ownership, my wife has small hands and handles either easily, I have large hands and handle either easily...Quite possibly the perfect pistol, and thats from a 1911 guy...
meanmrmustard
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By looking at Pilots photos, I'm going to say yes, they are. Notice the left side of the gun, where the mag release would be for a right handed gun...it's not there.
I hate to tell you this, Mustard, but they're definitely on the left side.
It's pretty obvious on the PCR, and the checkering on the button can be seen on the P-01.
I'll leave it to Pilot for the final verdict, but that's where my money is.
It's pretty obvious on the PCR, and the checkering on the button can be seen on the P-01.
I'll leave it to Pilot for the final verdict, but that's where my money is.
larryh1108
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I have the PCR and the .40S&W version of it. It will never leave my collection. Here's both sides to see if the mag catch swaps (by looking). I'm not sure.
If you're ever in the Hartford, CT area you're welcome to come shoot them. Any business to do down here?
If you're ever in the Hartford, CT area you're welcome to come shoot them. Any business to do down here?
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Is there ar .40 version of the PCR? I didn't know that. What is the model called? I know the .40 version of the P-01 is the P-06, but didn't realize there was a .40 version of the PCR released.
Regarding the mag releases. I believe they are reversible, but I've never done it. I am right handed, so all my mag releases operate from the left side on the pistol.
The PCR, and P-01 are tough to beat for "do it all" 9MM's.
Is there ar .40 version of the PCR? I didn't know that. What is the model called? I know the .40 version of the P-01 is the P-06, but didn't realize there was a .40 version of the PCR released.
Regarding the mag releases. I believe they are reversible, but I've never done it. I am right handed, so all my mag releases operate from the left side on the pistol.
The PCR, and P-01 are tough to beat for "do it all" 9MM's.
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The short lived CZ 40P is a .40S&W version of the PCR. It has the same alloy frame and is a decocker. From what I understand, it has a modified P-01 upper. I don't know why they produced a limited amount. I've read it was made with leftover parts from the failed CZ/Colt adventure and when the parts ran out, they stopped making them. It is an excellent pistol and is a joy to shoot. 1000
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Thanks Larry. I knew about the CZ/Colt 40P gun, but did not realize they used the same frame as the PCR. Still I would not call it a .40 caliber PCR as the upper/slide is quite different, but I get your drift.
From what I remember the 40P was a HECK of a deal way back when, but I just never bothered with the .40 S&W round so passed on them even at the great prices. The Colt branded one seems to be somewhat of a collector's itme these days.
From what I remember the 40P was a HECK of a deal way back when, but I just never bothered with the .40 S&W round so passed on them even at the great prices. The Colt branded one seems to be somewhat of a collector's itme these days.
meanmrmustard
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Maybe. I was thinking that's where the release came out the opposite side. But, after enhancing, I may see serrations that are tell take of a left sided button.
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To tell you the truth, I gave up on the .40S&W round until I shot the CZ 40P. My experience was with Glocks and 1911s in the .40S&W caliber and I did not like how it felt compared to my .45ACP rounds. In my mind, I didn't gain anything over the 9mm due to the fact that it was harder to control, for me. As much as I tried, I could never group the .40S&W worth a darn in the Glock or the 1911 platform so I swore off the round.
Years later I bought the PCR in 9mm. From the first shot, it was more accurate, in my hands, than any other 9 I shot including my BHP. I was hooked. I loved the weight, balance and size and the recoil was minimal. The accuracy was uncanny. I felt it had to do with the slide inside the frame and low bore axis. In my hands, it worked for me.
When I came across the CZ 40P I didn't think about it since it was a 40S&W but my curiosity got to me. If the 9 was a dream to shoot, how would the .40S&W be? Well, the first mag was all in the 10 ring and I had to have it. The recoil is like a 9mm and it feels more like a .45ACP than a .40S&W with the 180gr ammo. I was sold and have been very happy with it ever since. I don't like the clunky base of the mag and wish they had a flush fitting 8 round one instead of the 10 round but that's my only complaint. It has become my favorite range gun and I feel it's due to the low bore axis and slide inside the frame concept like mentioned above. That's also why Sigs shoot so well, IMO.
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Tacxted beat me to it but Maine Millitary Supply had at least one if not a couple different CZ's just a week or two ago. I think the one I held was a 75b but it could have been the P01. I was very pleased with almost everything on the gun except for the slide. It is so short vertically that it was difficult at best and painful at worst to get a grip on it under 'normal' conditions, the thought of trying to run a tap, rack, assess drill with it made me cringe. I hope you're able to find one to put hands on because I completely agree I couldn't imagine trying to buy a gun I've never handled. The smallest details can really sway your preference for or against a gun. I learned that several times over the other day. Good luck.
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