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Maine and CZ.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Dryft, Feb 3, 2013.

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  1. meanmrmustard

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  2. Pilot

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    I think the CZ-75 can be seen as an "evolution" of the Browning locked breech design with the addtion of DA capability. As Mr. Camp said, many others use this also, Sig, Glock, S&W, etc. I think the fact the CZ-75 somewhat resembles the Browning Hi Power cosmetically is why people think there is more of a direct lineage.

    Very true. If you want a great gun for home defense, range accuracy, and concealed carry the P-01 is hard to beat as is its brother the 75D PCR. The PCR does not have a light rail but is very similar in size, weight, design, and performance.

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  3. Dryft

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    Hey y'all!

    Thanks for all the great advice - I really do appreciate it. The more research I do, the more it sounds like the P-01 may really be the one to look for - it gets the updated tech and design, which is always good, and seems to be the basis for CZ's new lineup.

    Question: Is the magazine release reversible on these? It seems like a yes and no question depending on the model. The 85 Combat specifically states a reversible mag catch, but it's not specifically mentioned on most. For those that own the P-01, is this catch changeable?

    Thanks again! Keep those opinions coming.
     
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    My wife has a CZ75B and I have an all steel Witness in 9mm, and I can honestly say neither gun will EVER leave our ownership, my wife has small hands and handles either easily, I have large hands and handle either easily...Quite possibly the perfect pistol, and thats from a 1911 guy...
     
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    By looking at Pilots photos, I'm going to say yes, they are. Notice the left side of the gun, where the mag release would be for a right handed gun...it's not there.
     
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    I hate to tell you this, Mustard, but they're definitely on the left side.

    It's pretty obvious on the PCR, and the checkering on the button can be seen on the P-01.

    I'll leave it to Pilot for the final verdict, but that's where my money is.
     
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    I have the PCR and the .40S&W version of it. It will never leave my collection. Here's both sides to see if the mag catch swaps (by looking). I'm not sure.

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    If you're ever in the Hartford, CT area you're welcome to come shoot them. Any business to do down here?
     
  8. Pilot

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    larry wrote:

    Is there ar .40 version of the PCR? I didn't know that. What is the model called? I know the .40 version of the P-01 is the P-06, but didn't realize there was a .40 version of the PCR released.

    Regarding the mag releases. I believe they are reversible, but I've never done it. I am right handed, so all my mag releases operate from the left side on the pistol.

    The PCR, and P-01 are tough to beat for "do it all" 9MM's.
     
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    The short lived CZ 40P is a .40S&W version of the PCR. It has the same alloy frame and is a decocker. From what I understand, it has a modified P-01 upper. I don't know why they produced a limited amount. I've read it was made with leftover parts from the failed CZ/Colt adventure and when the parts ran out, they stopped making them. It is an excellent pistol and is a joy to shoot. 1000

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    Thanks Larry. I knew about the CZ/Colt 40P gun, but did not realize they used the same frame as the PCR. Still I would not call it a .40 caliber PCR as the upper/slide is quite different, but I get your drift.

    From what I remember the 40P was a HECK of a deal way back when, but I just never bothered with the .40 S&W round so passed on them even at the great prices. The Colt branded one seems to be somewhat of a collector's itme these days.
     
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    Maybe. I was thinking that's where the release came out the opposite side. But, after enhancing, I may see serrations that are tell take of a left sided button.
     
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    Damn, that's like $75 less than I paid for my SP-01...


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    To tell you the truth, I gave up on the .40S&W round until I shot the CZ 40P. My experience was with Glocks and 1911s in the .40S&W caliber and I did not like how it felt compared to my .45ACP rounds. In my mind, I didn't gain anything over the 9mm due to the fact that it was harder to control, for me. As much as I tried, I could never group the .40S&W worth a darn in the Glock or the 1911 platform so I swore off the round.

    Years later I bought the PCR in 9mm. From the first shot, it was more accurate, in my hands, than any other 9 I shot including my BHP. I was hooked. I loved the weight, balance and size and the recoil was minimal. The accuracy was uncanny. I felt it had to do with the slide inside the frame and low bore axis. In my hands, it worked for me.

    When I came across the CZ 40P I didn't think about it since it was a 40S&W but my curiosity got to me. If the 9 was a dream to shoot, how would the .40S&W be? Well, the first mag was all in the 10 ring and I had to have it. The recoil is like a 9mm and it feels more like a .45ACP than a .40S&W with the 180gr ammo. I was sold and have been very happy with it ever since. I don't like the clunky base of the mag and wish they had a flush fitting 8 round one instead of the 10 round but that's my only complaint. It has become my favorite range gun and I feel it's due to the low bore axis and slide inside the frame concept like mentioned above. That's also why Sigs shoot so well, IMO.
     
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    Tacxted beat me to it but Maine Millitary Supply had at least one if not a couple different CZ's just a week or two ago. I think the one I held was a 75b but it could have been the P01. I was very pleased with almost everything on the gun except for the slide. It is so short vertically that it was difficult at best and painful at worst to get a grip on it under 'normal' conditions, the thought of trying to run a tap, rack, assess drill with it made me cringe. I hope you're able to find one to put hands on because I completely agree I couldn't imagine trying to buy a gun I've never handled. The smallest details can really sway your preference for or against a gun. I learned that several times over the other day. Good luck.
     
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