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Mainline media supporting concealed carry?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Gouranga, Mar 24, 2010.

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  1. Gouranga

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com.id.34714389/ns.us_news-life

    So hell must have frozen over cause this article, even its title seems to support the concealed carry movement. There are some less then stellar arguments presented in it but to see it making front page news like this not too bad.
     
  2. wishin

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    They must have fired the reporter and pulled the article because the link won't work!:rolleyes:
     
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34714389/ns/us_news-life/

    This is the first of three pages. Anyone can can read the other two at msn.
     
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    Hey, I was just reading through and about to post this article.

    "Rand, the spokeswoman for the Violence Policy Center, acknowledged that “we don’t have centralized data-gathering to know what people are doing with these licenses.”

    “(But) anecdotally, we know they’re doing quite a bit of harm,” she said. "

    :scrutiny:
     
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    Shocking indeed to see that on MSNBC.
     
  7. Straight Shooter

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    Very positive article.

    It is statements like these that are changing people's minds and the laws for better.

    There is also a poll in this article:
    http://world-news.newsvine.com/_que...people-around-legally-carrying-concealed-guns
     
  8. Gouranga

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    Sorry about the link, my clipboard has decided not to work today and I fat fingered it. Yeah, the article took me aback. I mean it flies in the face of the usual anti doom and gloom predictions. Even shows an example of a case where a guy had to use it lawfully protect himself. There was some anti stuff in there but it seemed actually balanced at least.
     
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    I live in Columbia, I remember that case well. Another case happened only a couple of months before, less than 20 miles away in one of the suburbs. Three young men had phoned in a bogus pizza delivery order and waited in the bushes in the yard of the address they used to order the pizza. When the delivery guy walked up the drive, one guy jumped him and knocked him to the ground beating him while two others stood in the bushes. The pizza delivery man was lawfully carrying and pulled his weapon (a .38 Spl. revolver, IIRC). The assailant was shot and killed, the other two were apprehended later by the police. Like the incident in Five Points, it was judged to be completely justified and even though the 17 year old assailant was unarmed the authorities agreed that the delivery guy had a legitimate fear of death or grave bodily harm.
     
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  10. woodsoup

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    I just sent Mr. Stuckey an Email thanking him for his objective article.
     
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    We ALL should do the same. Mikestuckey@msnbc.com
     
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  12. Texas Gun Person

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    Sent him a message. :)
     
  13. NMGonzo

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    Wonderful news!

    More regular Joe's trained in SD = more good guys with guns = less victims.
     
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    I will be sending him an email as well. A good one I mean!
     
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    Wait WHAT? You mean shooting deaths are actually REDUCED when the good guys have guns too? That can't be right. Almost validates my CWP posession...
     
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    Good article, thank you.

    Did you guys read the responses on the poll that was in the article? It's amazing to me how narrow sighted people are. Every single idiot who apposed CCW said "I don't want some red neck, short tempered wacko with a gun next to me". How ignorant can you be? How do they not get that it's a honest, hard working, law abiding citizen that may save their life some day when some reckless thug who gives two sh*ts about legal carry puts a gun to their head asking for money.

    I just don't get it. Do they think that outlawing CCW that criminals won't carry with the intent to hurt or kill. Then what? wait for the police to get there 10 minutes later when your brains are splattered on the sidewalk? It scares me how irrational people are.
     
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    Thanks, I followed your lead and sent him a thank you e-Mail also. Great idea.
     
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    within that article there is an online poll. currently running- 73% feel safer knowing citizens are armed: 23% feel more in danger: 4% not sure. about 40k votes so far.
     
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    Count me in as part of the 73%
     
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    Upon reading the article you'll find this MSNBC "reporter" does far more to advance the cause of gun grabbers and the Brady people than that of CC and 2nd amendment advocates. Just the "packing heat" nonsense in the title makes his position pretty clear. Why not write that Americans are "taking advantage of their 2nd amendment rights!"
     
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    The facts touted by the anti-gun people as far as people legally being able to have guns, and it's effect on crime rate, is seriously hindered by real-world examples like switzerland.

    Case in point?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1566715.stm

    It's not the guns out there that cause the problems. It's the people's attitude towards them that causes the problems. People that treat guns as a source of power and a means of enforcing their will on others.

    Meh, that's all the rant I'll give this one.
     
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    He's a reporter, puppy. "Packing heat" grabs readers more than does "exercising 2A rights".. Most of my gun-owning friends use that phrase, too.
    In response to a similar editorial in our local paper lamenting the possibility of "some redneck or yahoo" carrying a gun in proximity to the whiner, I posted a response citing the over-one-million CCW/CCF licenses issued here in Florida (it's closer to two million now) and reminded her that that makes the odds show about one in 25-30 eligible adults licensed, and suggested she think about how many such people she passed the last time she walked through the local mall. I'm sure she now feels lucky to have escaped with her life.
     
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    Well who'da thunk - msnbc really. I read it but I still don't know that I believe it.
     
  24. ClayInTX

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    I sent him an email thanking him for an unbiased report. Perhaps the statistics are changing his mind about gun control—we can hope.

    I noticed in the responses that the ant-gunners were getting more sparse toward the end. Dare we hope they, or some, are getting the message?
     
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    Great article, I'll get around to emailing him when I upgrade Firefox to a version that will work with my email. I actually only just now heard about the self-defense use of a handgun in Columbia when I was walking past the building, and a friend of mine (and fellow shooter) filled me in on the story of a guy who tried to rob the place and a CWP holder was able to stop the threat.

    At least reading this opened me up to a new satirical "agreement" comment for the anti-concealed carry crowd...

    "I refuse to get my concealed weapons permit, because someday it may bring harm to a murderous criminal."
     
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