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Makarovs, Tokarevs, and 1911s being destroyed!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by U-235, Oct 30, 2007.

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  1. U-235

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    I found this thread on Militaryphotos.net, apparently HK gave Estonia a deal on some handguns with the condition that they destroy a large number of their existing handguns. Cases and cases of what look to be brand new pistols (some still in cosmoline) were put through a shredder at a junk yard. It's tough to look at these pictures, especially the case of 1911s that got shredded!

    Here is the Militaryphotos.net link: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83534

    Here is a link to high resolution photos of the destruction: http://www.mil.ee/~fotek/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album171&page=1
     
  2. 308win

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    H&K's motive could be that requiring destruction of the firearms keeps them off the surplus market and provides a better opportunity to sell new H&K products. Or, H&K's motive could be that civilians don't need firearms.
     
  3. Megistopoda

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    That is insanity.

    Why in hell wouldn't someone buy them and export them? What is up with HK?...surely there were proposals to purchase the material before it was destroyed.
     
  4. matt87

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    What a waste! That 'scrap' could have done a lot of good arming low income citezens for instance.
     
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    Hk, because you ...., and we hate you.
     
  6. romma

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    Heckle and Choke!
     
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    I really am not interested in buying any Hk products...especially now. Destroying history as a money making idea. Gah.
     
  8. Marshall

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    Kinda brings a tear to your eye.
     
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    This picture makes me :( I'd give that whole container of them a good home.
     
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    This is just insanity. Those pistols could have been sold, what motive did H&K have for this?
     
  11. JesseL

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    I'm sure Estonia would have gotten a much better deal by selling their old guns on the surplus market and putting the funds toward new H&K pistols at the regular price.
     
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    A part of me just died inside.:(

    I'm in the process of selling my H&K USP right now, if I ever needed a reason now I certainly have one:cuss:

    I'll never buy from H&K again after seeing this:fire:
     
  13. Funderb

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
    C'MON THAT HURTS.
    I want to crawl under a rock and pretend I never was stupid enough to click on this forum and then on the link to the pictures.
    Look at all the tokarevs! I wanted to buy one, but decided that they were too expensive, and I'd wait it out... Look now, the new shipment that would of ended up in the US inevitaby now is in little bity bits.
    Man this sucks.
     
  14. .45&TKD

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    I think I'm going to be sick!
     
  15. cracked butt

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    Trading err scrapping colt Gov. models for anything made by H:barf:K doesn't seem like a very good bargain.
    Sort of like crushing a classic Corvette Stingray to trade 'up' for a new VW Bug.
     
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    I'd bet those Colts were WWII Lend Lease pistols that were never ever used or handled.

    I think that HK is brilliant, they now "own" Estonia for small arms.

    It makes sense for Estonia to do this, go from 3 different pistol calibers to one standardized in 9mm para. Meets their military obligations to NATO.
     
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    millions of deceased russian and warsaw pact state workers, alond side of a few hundred american men and women, are crying.
    Their work has been crushed for progress.....
    Screw H&K, their stuff isn't spectacular, but I suppose there is nothing we can do about this now.
     
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    The first question is; How true is the H&K/ Estonian Govt. connection. All I see is pictures. Could be the Russian "Brady Bunch" for all we know.
     
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    That's just disgusting.
     
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    Hold on a second. How do we know H&K forced this part of the deal? How do we know it wasn't a government requirement to get funding?
     
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    I actually felt physical pain from that.


    -T.
     
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    Antique chairs destroyed to be sold as firewood so that the owner can buy brand new chairs made of compressed wood. Logical? Yea, right!
     
  24. Thernlund

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    Someone on that board said this...

     
  25. Cosmoline

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    An EU regulation sounds entirely possible. We KNOW for an ABSOLUTE FACT that the EU is frothing at the mouth crazy when it comes to firearms. They're one of our main enemies, more dangerous than the UN in fact. So if it comes to believing a well established gunmaker did this as opposed to the EU, my vote is for the EU. But at the very least someone should ask H&K about it before we start getting worked up.
     
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