Making a Cane

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by JimStC, Jul 29, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    Here you go Jim. :)

    Have since made a bunch of oak a black cherry


    A bunch of canes

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Finally resolved some camera/computer/ photobucket issues.

    Here are a few I have made recently. Forgive tha lack of photo skills they are gorgeous in peron if I do say so myself.

    From left to right.

    1 A beautiful maroon, twisted, piece given to me by my sil. I believe it is gum wood I just carved the head to be comfortable, cut to fit me, and polyed it.

    2 A solid piece of black cherry. Sanded lightly with 000 steelwool, fitted a right angle handle, and polyed.

    3 A Knobby piece of oak that took forever to debark and sand. Ball handle is fitted with a long screw that I cut the head off after it is in the shaft and afix the ball. (My favorite)

    4 Another oak piece with an egg handle. 3/4 in hole in egg makes the shaft flush with the top an it is epoxyed and pined

    5 An oak that failed the whack test and ened up in th fireplace

    6 A sturdy pice of oak I cut somewhat square on my table saw. Ball is fitted by using a 3/4 paddle bit to drill into the ball and shaft is glued/epoxcy on to ball.

    7 Just a piece of maple sanded and polyed. Doesnt get much use out side the house

    8 My wifes dogwood stick with ball drilled and epoxyed witha horozontal pinshe uses when out in the woods with the dogs. It is nochted cut top to bottom.

    9 Another oak, unfinished in this pic but since stained red oak and polyed, About an inch around and fast becoming my favorite Drilled ball and fitted and expoxied to shaft.

    IMG_1267.jpg
     
  2. JimStC

    JimStC Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Messages:
    664
    Location:
    Central Indiana
    Thanks Doc. Those are some fine work. That last oak one sure would pass the "whack test".
    I appreciate the picture and the descriptions. I have a long way to go to reach your skill level, but the journey is most of the fun.

    Jim
     
  3. Kingcreek

    Kingcreek Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,311
    Location:
    at the center of my own little universe
    I use a draw knife or a spoke-shave to take them down to heartwood. Locust is some hard stuff. If it takes on some bend during curing you can use a heat gun to straighten by heating it up in a vice or clamp and it will take a set as it cools if you hold it in position. I like to finish with an oil finish, either Landark oil or Fidde's hard wax oil.
     
  4. Deltaboy1984

    Deltaboy1984 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,033
    Location:
    Johnson County Texas
    Good looking canes.
     
  5. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    Jim not so much skill as patience.:)

    A few of the recent ones.
    Bottom to top, Black Cherry, Unknown, and oak( while it looks awkward the natural ball recurves over the tip and is surprisingly comfortable and balanced.
    View attachment 630237
     
  6. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,616
    Location:
    Atlanta
    I'd really like to see your canes, Doc. :eek:

    John
     
  7. Owen Sparks

    Owen Sparks member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    4,523
    Notice how none of them have any taper towards the tip?

    If you look closely, especially at the sixth one from the left, you will see that several of them actually have a reverse taper presumably to offset the weight of the ball handle and maintain a central balance point. This is what a proper fighting cane should look like!
     
  8. Deltaboy1984

    Deltaboy1984 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,033
    Location:
    Johnson County Texas
    Great looking Canes Owen!
     
  9. Owen Sparks

    Owen Sparks member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    4,523
    They are not mine, they belong to bikerdoc.
     
  10. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    62,803
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    They probably don't taper, the image just looks that way from the angle it is taken. If taken from the top instead of the bottom they'd appear to taper the other way.
     
  11. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    Owen,
    no reverse taper, just the cell phone perspective. I try to keep a uniform thickness of an inch to 1 1/4 inches. Reverse taper would not be to my benefit as I fight a pugil style. Thrust, butt stroke, head smash, with a few groin snaps thrown in for good measure.

    Your right #6 is quite the fighter and just got gifted to a brother Viet Nam vet fighting cancer.

    The middle one in the second set is similar in heft and going to a Desert Storm vet soon.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2012
  12. Deltaboy1984

    Deltaboy1984 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,033
    Location:
    Johnson County Texas
    They look great Bikerdoc. I got a 2 inch live oak limb cut and sealed setting in the garage. I made a one the other day out of a limp that got knock out last spring down the street. I sealed it and threw it up in the attic and got it down last week.
     
  13. JimStC

    JimStC Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Messages:
    664
    Location:
    Central Indiana
    Doc,
    Please explain the process from cutting the limb to the final product. Your work is exceptional. I am particularly interested in the handle and the wood final finish.
    Thanks a bunch.

    Jim
     
  14. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    I really dont have a process or maybe I do and dont know it.:)
    I collect or cut limbs with a bow saw I keep in the truck or take on walks in the woods or river bank. I bug the the tree cutting guys when I am out and about or sometimes see a pile at the side of the road for the monthly county pickup.

    Seal the ends tag the group with the date. and put in the crawlspace.

    When it is ready I wacktest it and if it passes then the fun begins deciding whats going to happen.

    bark on just 000 steel wool and poly

    bark off use a knive to get down to heart wood, sand, and poly.

    Mix of heart wood and under bark.Whatever hits ya.

    Stipple if want. ( stipple = whittle flicks, good for boring grain wood)

    fit rubber tip

    Handles, here is where it gets tricky.

    Natural nob = finish like the shaft

    Ball =3/4 paddle bit to drill into ball and carefully trim shaft to fit, must be tight, use epoxy to hold, Or some times I use a 3 inch sheet rock screw cut off the head. screw half into the shaft and half into the ball, small amt of epoxy helps

    L 's drill at least 3/4 the way or all the way through , fit carefully, it must be tight, and secure with a small brad horozontaly, grind off head, and finish.

    Finish= natural and poly. stain and poly, combo stain, get creative.

    Have fun and remember more than one will end up in the fireplace right after you say, "Poop" or some such epitaph. :)
     
  15. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,616
    Location:
    Atlanta
    Doc, is the wood finish fairly slick? I notice you said "poly". Maybe you can bring a couple to play with, when I get home.

    John
     
  16. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    62,803
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    I was able to handle Al's latest wild cherry stick before dinner. While it was pretty "slick" it wasn't slippery. Smooth with a slightly tacky surface. There are a lot of poly finishes that don't look or feel "plasticy" like poly used to.
     
  17. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,616
    Location:
    Atlanta
    Well, I'm know that there's more than one way to use a fighting stick. I just know that I personally need something my skin can slide over easily.

    The Dymondwood mentioned in another thread didn't work well for me because the surface was too slick. I know it's counter-intuitive, but extremely slick actually grabs the skin and burns.
     
  18. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    John
    You most certainly will see some canes. I strive for a shiny yet grippy cane. Pm me your lentnth in inches from ground (wearing shoes) to your watch band and I will see what I can come up with.

    This time of year stock is low and I got to get to cuting soon.
    I figure I gifted about 2 dozen this year. Yours will be from private stock if the measyrement is right.
     
  19. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,616
    Location:
    Atlanta
    Doc,

    I think we're the same height, but I like 38". That's very kind of you, thanks. :)

    John
     
  20. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    38 it is, see you in nov.:)
     
  21. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    23,616
    Location:
    Atlanta
    Looking forward to it. :D
     
  22. Owen Sparks

    Owen Sparks member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    4,523
    This is why I can't use traditional Irish Blackthorn.
     
  23. JimStC

    JimStC Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Messages:
    664
    Location:
    Central Indiana
    Owen,
    I have two Blackthorn, one with thorns and one without. I definitely get your point, pun intended.
    I worked over a birch with the thorned cane and it is almost thornless, but still not smooth.. The smooth one is very nice. I may take it to my eskrima training tomorrow.
    The thorned one will get a sanding and refinish at some point. So many projects......

    Jim
     
  24. p35

    p35 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    999
    Location:
    Puget Sound
    My brother built this and eventually gave it to me. It's a "shaving horse" designed to hold sticks while the operator uses a draw knife on them. It's incredible how much easier it is to use this setup than it is to peel/carve sticks with a pocket knife.

    It took him a lot of work to do this, but if you're seriously into carving sticks it's a great thing to have.

    IMG00050-20120824-1441.jpg

    Hey, everything's on Wikipedia now:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaving_horse
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2012
  25. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator In Memoriam

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2008
    Messages:
    25,197
    Location:
    Southern Virginia
    That is neet!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice