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malfunction that cause full auto

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JBrady555, Nov 14, 2012.

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  1. Ramone

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    while not quite FA, I have seen 1911s that were prone to double or triple due to a mis-adjusted trigger overtravel screw.
     
  2. eldon519

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    You literally just told the whole world. Maybe you are unclear how the internet works? That www. stands for World Wide Web.

    It's extremely unlikely, but it wouldn't be the first time someone went to prison for posting things on the internet. I read about a girl recently who got caught for blowing up toilets in the woods with homemade explosives and posting the videos on YouTube.
     
  3. gamestalker

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    Very recently my Son bough one of those very inexpensive AR style 22LR knock off's and it went full auto. It has a 10 round clip and it will absolutely empty that clip so fast that it sounds and feels like only a single round is being fired.

    GS
     
  4. Jaymo

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    I've never had it happen, and don't intend for it to happen. I don't tinker with my guns, as long as they work correctly.
    I don't mess with triggers.
     
  5. hentown

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    Your understanding of the law is underwhelming! :rolleyes::cool:
     
  6. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Someone got caught and convicted for trying to make a illegal submachine gun. He was trying to build a semi auto Sten with a full auto receiver and had a full auto bolt in the background of the picture. He disappeared from the forum he was on and people were wondering where he went till his wife came on and told them. The BATF saw his picture and arrested and convicted him.

    I would never admit to a crime no matter how big or small somewhere where Law Enforcement would or could see it.

    They could still start an investigation and give you a headache you don't want in your life. Be smart about it.
     
  7. Jaxondog

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    I have a friend who just added a set of Crimson Trace grip's to his Glock Mod 20 and presto magnifico, full auto. We shot it at my house the day after he put them on cause he has nowhere to shoot at his house. He ask me to try it out, so i did and i'm glad I put only 3 round's in it. We both looked at each other and said ***.I handed him the gun and asked him what did you do to it and he said nothing but put the grip's on. I said it had to be something else but he stuck to it and said that he thought the screw in the grip was interfering with the magazine release button a little. Needless to say he is very happy with it and I told him I did not want to shoot it anymore that I thought it was dangerous. Oh well.
     
  8. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Is it just me or are Glocks really easy to convert to full auto? Seems like a bad trigger job will do the trick.
     
  9. Jaymo

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    I saw a youtube video of a guy bump firing a Beretta 92.
     
  10. hentown

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    That's really interesting! Glocks don't have screws, and Crimson Trace lasers for Glocks don't come in "sets". :eek:
     
  11. mljdeckard

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    There is actual legal precedent for a weapon malfunctioning at a public range and going full-auto, and the shooter being charged. Don't think for one second that no one who commited a crime in solitude has ever been caught.
     
  12. eldon519

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    Bingo. I never meant to imply people get arrested simply for writing on the internet. Rather if someone puts it out there that he is doing illegal things, he's supplying evidence toward fulfilling the probable cause burden required to get a warrant. With a warrant, there is nothing stopping LEO of the appropriate jurisdiction from finding your illegal toys and changing the path of your life for the foreseeable future. Really the main thing protecting someone is the fact that most LEO agencies already have plenty to keep them busy. I'd sure feel sheepish if I went to the pen for trying to play Cool Guy on the internet. No doubt it doesn't happen a lot, but it doesn't seem like a very worthwhile chance to take from a risk-reward perspective.
     
  13. ny32182

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    My M&P doubled a handful of times when its very intermittent failure to reset the sear issues started after 13k rounds without a cleaning under the sear. I believe the cause was that the sear reset just enough to catch the striker while the slide was closing, but not enough to hold it through the jarring of the slide going fully forward. In this case, trigger is still pulled, so the striker block safety is out of the way, striker releases on slide closing, gun fires again. In all instances the timer recorded an .08 split though I think it was actually less than that (dont' think the timer was set to record anything less than that) and both bullets hit the target at 7-10 yards.

    A cleaning under the sear fixed the issue immediately. I can easily see how bubba gun-smith taking too much material off the sear could generate this same effect.
     
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  14. hentown

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    I"m familiar with that case. For a number of reasons, it's not germane to this thread.
     
  15. StrikeFire83

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    Actually, people DO get arrested for writing on the internet, IF they communicate a threat. Check out 18 U.S.C 845(c).

    I'm a third year law student and I worked for a US Attorney's office last year. I worked on quite a few gun cases with the BATFE. If I had a firearm that was malfunctioning and "going full auto" I'd send it back to the manufacturer to be repaired. If that didn't fix the problem, I'd ask the manufacturer for a replacement. If the manufacturer refused, I'd send the firearms to BATFE or a local PD to be destroyed.
     
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