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Man Arrested for Stolen Magazines

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Mikee Loxxer, Jul 5, 2009.

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  1. Mikee Loxxer

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    Follow the link and read this news story about a guy with M16 magazines stamped "for law enforcement only." What does the The High Road readership think about this?


    I have seen such magazines for sale at gun shows. Does possessing these make one criminally liable?

    http://www.kolnkgin.com/home/headlines/49627267.html
     
  2. Gamera

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    He's not in trouble because they're "law enforcement only" mags, he's in trouble because he (apparently) stole them from the army. I wonder how the cops knew right away that they were stolen? Or did they? Hmmmm.....
     
  3. TexasRifleman

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    Might turn out to be some egg on the face of LE here unless he really stole them.

    I don't think the magazines issued by the army say "LE only".
     
  4. GRIZ22

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    I don't think the magazines issued by the army say "LE only".
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    M16 magazines procured by the military during the AWB were marked "LE/Govt Use only".
     
  5. divemedic

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    Doesn't sound like a check for illegal fireworks to me. Sounds more like a fishing expedition that is designed to circumvent the 4A while trashing the 2A, to me.

    I also would like one of those cops to explain what the difference is between an M-16 and an AR-15 magazine, and even if they WERE proven to be M-16 magazines, what made them illegal to possess. Also, I want to hear how they can tell they were Army property, and even if they were, how they can prove they were not legally acquired.

    This is an article designed to impress the public into believing that the checkpoints that destroy our liberty is needed, so the bad men won't get them while America sleeps.
     
  6. 4v50 Gary

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    So, if the magazines are marked, "Le only," does this mean that the Army stole them from some LE agency?
     
  7. Zach S

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    That's what I was thinking.

    The LEOs may have just assumed he stole them since he's in the NG.

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. NC-Mike

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    I bet they were also somehow marked property of Nebraska National Guard.

    And they could have also been marked for LEO use only cause the Guard can be called upon for that role.



    Regardless of that, the reporting remains incorrect.
     
  9. fireman 9731

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    State police checking for illegal fireworks?
    Don't they have anything better to do?!?!

    As child molesters lurk in the night, they ruin peoples 4th of July because they have a few pop bottle rockets.:banghead:

    I guarantee they decided to check things more thoroughly just because he had a few guns in the car :barf:
     
  10. jerkface11

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    I've never had cops at a checkpoint ask if I had guns in the car. One time I even had a gun case in the passenger seat in plain view.
     
  11. Tim the student

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    Almost all the magazines I used in the Army were marked like that.

    It was common that the armorer wouldn't want mags from guys who were clearing as they were up about 300 on the books.

    I think thats kind of scary that guys might get arrested after trying to turn them in and not being able to.

    On the upside of that checkpoint, at least they arrested a drunk driver.
     
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    It may be that they questioned him and he self-incriminated. A lot of crooks do that.

    But if he didn't self-incriminate and they can't show the providence of those magazines, then they don't have a case. Any criminal attorney would be able to win that one. If they can show the providence of the mags or he self-incriminated then he's a crook.
     
  13. duckman007

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    I have several magazines marked as such and obtained them legally from law enforcement agencies. As mentioned earlier, they're from the previous ban and are basically identical to any other magazine. Unless they have something other than the markings to suspect him of theft, their case is weak at best, and may very well come back to bite them.
     
  14. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    That's what I was wondering - seems to me that the cops here ought to be over at the base arresting the ranking general for stealing these from a LEOA (before this guy stole them from the army, as they say). Absolutely absurd.
     
  15. ConstitutionCowboy

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    Best guess:

    These are surplus magazines manufactured during the AWB and are, of course, are now legal for anyone to own. I'll bet there isn't even a BOLO for magazines stolen from the military. I haven't heard of one.

    The mistake here is the dude was driving drunk, or drinking while driving.

    Woody
     
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    If he did purchase them and they weren't stolen, then this is where the dremel comes in handy.
     
  17. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Except that there's no need to do that, when it's perfectly legal to own them.
     
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    I'd like to know at what point the United States became Eastern Germany and the "Law Enforcement" was given the ability to setup random checkpoints where they can search your vehicle without due cause. I thought there was some clause somewhere in some document of law stating protection from "Unreasonable Search and Seizure." Im pretty sure that random checkpoints for all citizens falls under this category.
     
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    I wonder what the checkpoint cops would have done with a 1911 stamped "Property of US Government."

    Ah, well. Running a checkpoint has to be safer than hunting down actual criminals, and we all know that officer safety is paramount.
     
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    i have two 20 round magazines labeled for LE and Military use only, i obtained both legally. it seems to me this is another case of an individual power tripping on his LE time.

    -kirk
     
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    No but it avoids convusion and news stories like this one.
     
  22. Crash_Test_Dhimmi

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    The magazines in the army are listed as expendable, since they do go "bad" (FTF's) and the springs can go bad, or the weld points breaking, etc... they are expendable, you can turn them in for a one for one basis. That being said, there is little accountability for these things, and I have known many people acquiring poop loads of them throughout their careers. Kind of like a bank teller bringing home free pens with the little chains on them.
     
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    I know that it's not nearly as much fun, but let's avoid jumping to generalized conclusions until we get a few more details, ok?

    Comments like this define the exact opposite of The High Road.

    Sadly, 'public safety' checkpoints (e.g. sobriety checkpoints) have been ruled as legal and Constitutional for many years now.
     
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    The magazines I was issued by the Army to go to Iraq with last year were stamped "Brownells".
     
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