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Man pulls a sword on a fellow driver.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by zookrider, Oct 25, 2005.

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  1. zookrider

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    From Court TV.com

    O'neill: "I ought to run you through with this."
    THR Member's Reply: "I see your sword and raise you 8 rounds of 45 ACP, your move slick.":cool:
     
  2. Moonclip

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    Nothing wrong with a sword, my dad has been known to keep one in the car too! At close range with a sword, 8 rounds of 45acp may not be enough to keep you from being "run through".

    I'd much rather have a large knife or sword or hatchet than like a 22lr or 25acp pocket pistol.
     
  3. zookrider

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    Factor in some agility and you should be fine. Also, it is my belief that only a truly insane swordsman would not back down when he found himself staring down the business end of a 1911 (assuming that you drew the instant you realized he had the sword as I would). As far as I'm concerned one step toward me with sword in hand is justification to open fire so him getting within "close range" wouldn't happen, pretty sure the law agrees with me too (at least in Texas).
     
  4. Janitor

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    I'm fairly sure it's the same in Minnesota too.

    I'd probably not be worried about who the law agrees with though, if somebody were coming at me with a three foot knife. :eek:
     
  5. Matthew748

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    Charles better be careful. Remember that scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" where that guy tries all those fancy sword moves on Indy in the alley?
     
  6. Smuggs

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    And if that guy had taken that first flurry of moves on real cuts the pistol would not have goten out of the flap top holser. Haven casualy studied several sword forms at that range a bare blade is exeptionaly dangerous. Would i trade a .45 for a sword? No I own both :neener: but I won't be downplaying the threat of one either.
     
  7. Geno
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    Well stated Smuggs

    Ditto. In the hands of a trained expert, ANY weapon is just that, regardless of blade, stick or firearm.

    I can say with all confidence that, given this man's actions, he was no "expert" per his lack of self-control. In the first place, any martial artist whose skills are worth anything will NEVER, and I mean NEVER disclose those facts before the first strike, and then it's too late.

    You NEVER telegraph your MA knowledge thereby allowing the BG to pull any form of weapon. By the way, your best bet is to possess both...MA skills and firearms skills.

    Just my two cents.

    Doc2005
     
  8. bogie

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    Anyone remember that pawnbroker down in Florida, who turned down a wannabe ninja on a sale, and the fellow came back, with sword, and proceeded to try to slice and dice him? He got cut pretty bad, including a complete through/through, but he stuck a few .25s in the guy's head (after he'd retreated past several loaded guns that he just forgot about...).
     
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    QUICK!!!!

    Call the trial lawyers lets all sue the swordsmith!

    :rolleyes:
     
  11. boofus

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    I think the guy inside the car with the .45 wins hands down. All he has to do is lower the window 1" or shoot the bastage through the window.

    The guy outside with the sharp stick has to break the window to get at the guy inside the car.
     
  12. Missashot

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    One should never bring a knife to a gun fight. :what:
     
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    Even in MA, if someone charges you with a sword you're ok to draw and fire.
     
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    +1 Funny :D
     
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    Never bring a gun to a food fight.
     
  16. Gump

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    Wait, let me get this straight.

    Guy takes out sword, threatens someone with it then proceeds to Nijacize the other guys car........then has the brilliant idea to call the cops and gets arrested :confused: "I'll take 'Going to Jail for $2000, Alex'"



    Triple Stupid
     
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    I think the other guy is the one who called police, after getting Ninja's tag number.
     
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    Anyone with a blade within 21 feet of you is a threat. It is demostrable and proven. I would imagine they would be even more so the longer the blade because they can damage you from farther than arms length.
    If that person starts running toward you, you might have 1.5 seconds to draw, get the front sight on COM and fire before they make contact.
     
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    I'm not waiting for him to advance to draw, I'm drawing as soon as I realize he is armed. I'll open fire when he starts to advance.
     
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    zook,

    That's my point. The above is basic level doctrine taught at the academy. When they whine about the times being too fast for qualification they're reminded of this rule.
    If you wait for him to move before drawing, you're reacting and will at the very least have some cool scars to show off.
     
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    A guy with a sword who knows how to use it can do a quick disarm while you draw the gun. And with disarm, I mean exactly what the word says.:evil:
     
  23. orangeninja

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    Yeah...about that 21 foot rule...if you practice that, when you are "aware" of the suspect and practiced in a draw, you will be able to draw and fire ONE TIME before being cut/stabbed/both. The 21 foot rule assumes the first shot will stop the attack....I assume nothing. Incidentally we were trained for 30ft....if they close under 30 feet...start shooting baby.
     
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    "Mommy mommy I started a fight I can't finish. Help me mommy" :rolleyes:
     
  25. Rufus Pisanus

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    I guess distance and surprise must play a role...at 200 yds with my scoped Springfield 1903A4 I'd take on Mihamoto Musashi...
    :D
     
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