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mandatory gun ownership?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by mek42, Apr 20, 2008.

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  1. mek42

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    Would it help 2A by having a grassroots call for mandatory gun ownership? After all, that's how it is in Switzerland and they count years per gun homicide not gun homicides per year. Therefore, forcing everyone to own a gun must reduce gun violence.
     
  2. glocker82

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    It would also make a readily available army if the need ever arose also.
     
  3. Robert J McElwain

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    I totally agree with the sentiment, however, there are some idiots, and we all know a few, that just should never be near a gun.:eek:

    Bob
     
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    Needless to say there are significant differences between Swiss and American society/culture/history/law which contributes to low Swiss homicide rates and the success of their citizen army. Mandatory gun ownership may be somewhat more problematic here in the US.

    Don’t get me wrong, I think it would be wonderful, along with legal OC in all 50 states. I’d love for the Government to go to each house in the US, make sure the home has at least one rifle and one handgun, and if none are present give the household a citizens’ rifle.

    Sadly, however, some components of our society may not be ready for that. But I would settle for all 50 states and the Federal government to abide by the correct intent of the 2A, repeal all restrictions and regulations as unconstitutional, and uniformly support and encourage gun ownership for self-defense and possible defense of the nation.
     
  5. packnrat

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    near a gun.......

    .i know some that should not even be close to a dull butter knife at the dinner table.:eek::what:



    :uhoh:

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  6. MarshallDodge

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    I don't think it's a good idea unless you put a training program along with it. As already stated, there are quite a few that should not own a gun and if you made them, the results would not be good.
     
  7. El Tejon

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    Yes gun ownership should be mandatory.

    As well, firearms education should take place in schools. As well, there should be a firearms qualification before one is allowed to vote.
     
  8. SpiderJohn

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    I for one, don't want the government to tell me much of anything. I don't want them to tell me I have to, or can't own a gun. I don't want them knowing how much I earn with my job, or how much I spend on healthcare. I don't want them to tell me anything.

    Anyone trying to force me to do anything against my will, using force of intimidation, or law, is just wrong. I don't impose my will upon anyone, and don't want anyone to impose their will upon me. :barf:
     
  9. dalepres

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    I'm storing my guns at a friend's house when they come to check at my house.
     
  10. TheArchDuke

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    Absolutely not! The government shouldn't be forcing us to do anything! They should stay the hell out of it and let individuals decide.

    EDITED TO ADD: By the way "stay the hell out" also means repeal all gun laws.
     
  11. scrat

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    there should be firearms classes in schools. just like in the past the was guns smithing in schools.
     
  12. jpsimms

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    El Tejon

    I agree entirely with your belief that gun training shuld be part of our school system. I have said this for years, that if the kids were all taught early enough about gun safety and responsibly ownership there would be far fewer injuries and fatalities related to firearms. either from ad/nd or criminal activity.

    I think there should be a grassroots movement to require this long before the nation would be ready for mandatory gun ownership, but I believe it is a good idea, but I don't think we are ready for it yet. We would have to take a few small steps first to ensure an easier transition.

    An armed society is a polite society, but I do also believe that each person has a right to choose for themselves if they would like to own one or not.

    Maybe not mandatory, but the Gov. could encourage gun ownership by giving a tax break to legal gun owners or something like that. Call it the Ammunition Cost Relief Act or some such.

    sorry to ramble, it's just a pipe dream, but it would be cool
     
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    Why not? We teach them sex-ed, drivers-ed, the dangers of drugs. We should teach firearms safety also.
     
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    Just as I don't think antis should force their beliefs on me, I don't think anybody (especially the government) should be forcing anybody else to own firearms.
     
  15. mgregg85

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    Good luck with the mandatory gun ownership idea, I feel that it is highly unlikely to succeed, even if it does sound like a good idea.

    What I would really like to see is the military sell it's surplus M-16s converted to semiautomatic. If they would sell them to civilians like they do to police agencies(I think they charge a whole $15) it would be a great program.
     
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    Not mandatory, but encouraged. Militia muster should occur on a county level twice a year or so. Fyrdthegn is one of the duties/honorifics of the Sheriff predating the Magna Carta, and the county seems to be an appropriate level at which to organize the militia (fyrd). In addition to skill at arms, training in emergency medical attention and whatever service one's individual life skills could do for the common good should be considered.
     
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    The sentiment does have a certain appeal, but dig deeper and you will find problems. Even Kennesaw, GA's "mandatory gun ownership" ordinance is symbolic. No one should be literally forced to keep guns if they don't want them.

    As an aside, we have no laws forcing people to vote, either, and voting is arguably more important than gun ownership. (Don't lynch me. ;)) You usually find those in countries like Iraq (under Saddam Hussein, who always got 99% of the "vote") or Cuba.
     
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    There are some people whom I do not want to be armed.

    I would like to encourage more firearms ownership amongst those who are reliable, honest citizens. I would discourage gun ownership amongst criminals, and the mentally ill.
     
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    absolutely not! Forcing gun ownership is just as much a violation of rights as prohibiting gun ownership. The people have the right to choose. I personally like the idea of every citizen being armed, but I detest the idea of not allowing them to choose for themselves.
     
  20. The Lone Haranguer

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    We all would, but encouraging is a long way from mandating.
     
  21. mek42

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    How about just getting the idea of mandatory gun ownership out there to get equal play with the "ban all guns" talks? Not so much to actually implement mandatory gun ownership, but to drive the public toward the middle ground of actually being closer to 2A?
     
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    The word mandatory is a little harsh.

    In my dream world, the gov (state) would have an organized militia of the populace that trains for 6 weeks at the beginning, 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks every summer. This would be all volunteer, but government funded (arms, training, ammunition, first aid kits, etc). Every single member of the militia should have a new government issued select fire M16, and at least 1000 rounds in their home.

    Since we're dreaming here, we could also say the militia is required to stay stateside (meaning they can NEVER, for ANY REASON, be called to go to a war in another country. their ENTIRE purpose would be to defend the USA from their home state.)

    Firearm safety and training should be mandatory in all schools. (This at least would mitigate NDs and give some exposure to the general populace).


    And no, the National Guard does not fill this dream as evident by the current number of them forced overseas.
     
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    What Brighamr has described is basically the Swiss model. And it's a good one as far as it goes. I'd add that in order to be franchised, a minimum of 2 years government service be required. This might be military service or some non-military government service. Those of you who've read the book, not the abomination of a movie, Starship Troopers know this isn't an original idea of mine. Barring that, then to be franchised, you must qualify annually with a minimum score of Marksman with either a bolt or semi-auto rifle.
     
  24. Robert J McElwain

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    .i know some that should not even be close to a dull butter knife at the dinner table.

    Now, I think we're talking about some of my kin.:D
     
  25. Prince Yamato

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    No, it should not be mandatory. There are religious groups (such as the Amish) that may be in opposition to ownership of weapons on a personal level. If they choose not to own guns, well, good for them. I'll carry an extra clip for the one they don't carry.
     
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