Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

marksman/sniper tips and tricks

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by sprice, Feb 17, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. sprice

    sprice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Messages:
    916
    I've been studying up on marksmanship for hunting and offensive/defensive carbine and long riflemanship skills. I've learned some things that will make me a better shooter- but the books are outdated and I only had 2 books to begin with. Could all of you help me out and teach me some new tips/tricks and or escape, evade, and survive skills? If you tell me some I'll try and use them this summer on a weeklong survival trip.

    Thanks again- Sprice
     
  2. Maelstrom

    Maelstrom Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2008
    Messages:
    722
    Location:
    HERE
    Hold the gun steady.
     
  3. Duke of Doubt

    Duke of Doubt member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,863
    sprice: "but the books are outdated"

    I've obtained useful marksmanship and scouting information from books hundreds of years old. Some of the best marksmanship and scouting tomes were authored in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.
     
  4. sprice

    sprice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Messages:
    916
    thanks for "hold the gun steady" haha and the outdated books part was because i was also wondering if there was anything new. I already said i "learned some new things that will make me a better shooter." also; things change.
     
  5. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    209
    Got some titles? I'd be interested in checking them out if possible.
     
  6. sprice

    sprice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Messages:
    916
    zangetsu is right: refer some books to us!
     
  7. gotime242

    gotime242 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    562
    If its cold out, put snow in your mouth so whatever you are shooting at doesnt see your breath.

    :D
     
  8. Duke of Doubt

    Duke of Doubt member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,863
    Zangetsu: "Got some titles? I'd be interested in checking them out if possible."

    Almost too many to start a list. Best idea is to explore your local antiquarian book dealer's stock, particularly in older, rural areas, for older hunting and related literature. I've collected in that genre for some time (it's easy in rural Maine; we hunt, we shoot, we have lots of guns, we read, and we have lots of time in winter to read).

    But I'll offer one title/group of titles:

    My favorite introductory handgun book is Lt. Chas. Chapel's "Simplified Pistol and Revolver Shooting" (1950). Lt. Chapel wrote an excellent series of gun books in the early twentieth century on a wide variety of gun topics. I've found them concise, accurate and helpful to read.
     
  9. marsofold

    marsofold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    115
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Aim carefully at the target.
     
  10. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,417
    Location:
    Alma Illinois
    The only thing new in sniping is the equipment used. The fundamentals haven't changed much since sniping began. I'm going to move this thread to rifle country where you'll get better answers.
     
  11. gotime242

    gotime242 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    562
  12. black_powder_Rob

    black_powder_Rob Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2008
    Messages:
    699
    Location:
    Richmond, Texas
    aim small, miss small
     
  13. blkbrd666

    blkbrd666 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,301
    Location:
    Georgia
    One shot, one kill? :D
     
  14. taliv

    taliv Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    22,285
    i think "escape/evade/survive" skills are a good bit outside the scope of THR. (if you want to discuss those, hit the 'aps' link in the upper right)

    marksmanship however, is definitely what we're about, but the internet is sorta a suboptimal media for marksmanship instruction.

    there are some good places to go get training on both topics though.

    my advice would be to ask more specific questions in areas you think you're having problems.
     
  15. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,562
    Location:
    Georgia
    1. Bring Chuck Norris.

    /thread. :D
     
  16. bfoosh006

    bfoosh006 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2008
    Messages:
    497
  17. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2002
    Messages:
    43,771
    Location:
    Terlingua, TX; Thomasville,GA
    The better you are at hunting, the better you are at escape and evasion. The main thing at E&E is to always find the hunter before the hunter finds you; figure out where he's headed and then don't be there. You want to be behind him, so if you decide to shoot, your life is easy and his isn't. People are a bunch easier than coyotes or trophy bucks.

    Self control. The closer you can get yourself to being about halfway bored, the less of a problem from adrenalin. Then you can focus on trigger control, and anticipating where the sights will be, 0.2 seconds after you tell your trigger finger to Do It. Between heartbeats, of course.
     
  18. WNTFW

    WNTFW Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2006
    Messages:
    1,906
    The latest book by
    Col. John Plaster - The Ultimate Sniper--New Edition

    also some of his videos are on youtube.
     
  19. .38 Special

    .38 Special Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2006
    Messages:
    2,303
    Location:
    Orange County, CA.
    I'd submit that telling your trigger finger to "Do It" eliminates any possibility of hitting, sheer luck excepted. But then, I don't know anything about being a "sniper", so I'll just keep my mouth shut. :p
     
  20. REDMASTA

    REDMASTA Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    83
    Location:
    USA
    Don't miss or just bring Chuck Norris as said above, either works
     
  21. rangerruck

    rangerruck Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Messages:
    8,374
    Location:
    Texas, baby!
    "survivle rifles" are generally all overrated and not necessary; a good , reliable, long bbl., 22 pistol, slim bbl, black on black, is allways good, light, takes up little room, easy to carry, and you can carry a ton of 22 rounds.
    A good all around book for woodsmanship/patrolling stuff? got two for you.
    go to a army surplus store, and get a FM (field manual) on Mountaineering, and the Ranger handbook. Ever since I got out of the Army, i have allways tried to keep at least one Ranger handbook handy.
    It starts out with the Ranger Creed, and then is followed by Rogers' general orders, written in 1755, still aplicable today, for anyone.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangers_Standing_Orders

    the so called 'fictional version' here is most common, and shortest.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2009
  22. rangerruck

    rangerruck Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Messages:
    8,374
    Location:
    Texas, baby!
    Oh yeah, my best advice , when first going into the woods, by yourself, or even with others; get away at least a 1/4 mile from your start point, 1/2 mile is better. While in the Army, when leaving the forward line, or RP, or defensive post, we would try to travel at least 1 hill or valley away, to get away from the sound, light, and noise of the place we just left. Then sit down, be still, shut up, and listen, I MEAN REALLY LISTEN, for about 15 minutes. Don't think about anything, what you need to do , where you are going next, nothing. Just shut up and listen. Take it all in. What's the temps like, what's the wind like, where is it coming from , where's north, are there any lights, animal sounds, people sounds, vehicle sounds; absorb your environment for 15 minutes. then as you move, take notice of anything at all, that did not sound or smell like that first 15 minutes, and either investigate it, or if evading, move away from it.
    Lastly, if you have to go back, look behind you every 15 or 20 steps, and look at the environment, and pic out a peculiar rock, tree, etc., to give you reference. put a small stone in your pocket, or tie a knot in a piece of string, every 70 steps you take with one leg, left or right, you choose. Generally, unless you are allways on flat ground, or are very long legged, this will be about 100 meters.
    My pace count for 100 meters is 62 steps, with every left foot, on flat ground.
     
  23. Dimis

    Dimis Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,558
    Location:
    Delaware
    WOW do i have a list of stuff for you lol
    to start get the basic military manuals most have been updated as rescent as 2003 do a search and you can find a bunch of places to download for free (http://stevespages.com used to have them)
    then id go with some stuff about Carlos Hathcock especialy HIS book White Feather or Carlos Hathcock:USMC Scout Sniper
    if you want i can e-mail you a list of Great books to try out but its WAY to many to post because i just tried copying and pasteing it and it wouldnt let me
    there is also a bunch of videos and even computer software that will help you ALOT im no expert sniper but i used to have groups of 4-5 inches at 100 yards and now im within an inch most of that is just practice but alot of the technique was learned from these books
    also go through rifle safty and training courses a good range instructer will help you 1000000000 times more than trying to figure it out on your own
     
  24. C-grunt

    C-grunt Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,834
    Location:
    Phoenix Az
    Kentucky windage. Im serious.

    I never got into sniper school when I was in. They gave it to a new Private because I got to go to Javeline Missile school, which was all but completely useless in a mechanized unit.

    But I did get a DMR rifle in my 05 tour. The snipers in y unit would make fun of my "baby sniper rifle", but I did best their longest shot by a good 100 meters. HA!!!
     
  25. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2002
    Messages:
    43,771
    Location:
    Terlingua, TX; Thomasville,GA
    .38 Special, when you shoot any firearm, isn't your brain giving an order to your trigger finger? :)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page