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Marlin 30-30 or winchester 30-30?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SturmMackRuger, Jul 10, 2007.

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  1. SturmMackRuger

    SturmMackRuger Member

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    After my last experiment with a mini 14 I am moving on to bigger and better things now my next question which 30-30 is best. Im needing a good deer rifle that is not an auto gun or bolt gun but I can still get a few quick rounds off. Im looking for one used in decent condition no rust on barell no cracked stock etc... Around here 30-30s are popular,, bullets are abundant and just about everyone can fix one. But I need to know which should I go with Marlin or Winchester.
     
  2. R.W.Dale

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    OK if you're NOT going to need a scope buy a WINCHESTER, I own both and I'll probably get flamed for saying this but "All Marlin leverguns are going to hell as they simply have no soul."

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  3. .45Guy

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    They do make offset scope mounts for the 94 if you absolutely need to have glass mounted. Of course I've never come across one that works for left handed shooters. My 336 in .35, Thatoneguy's 94 in .30-30, and Mrs. .45's Glenfield model 30 in.....30-30. BTW, your best bet is to wait 'til the months just prior to deer season opening. That's when everybody and their brother dumps whatever they have on hand for the new "whiz bang super duper short magnum." You'll usually find a plethora of .30-30's on the rack cheap.

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  4. ZeSpectre

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    He he he, not sure if you are right, but I do actually like my Marlin. My .30-30 represents one of those guns that I really have no current use for as I don't hunt...but it is such an essential part of Americana that I felt I just HAD to own at least one .30-30 levergun.
     
  5. davera

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    Me too.

    And I would not turn down a nice vintage Win 94 if I encountered one while money was burning a hole in my pocket.
     
  6. foghornl

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    I prefer the Marlin models. Nothing wrong with the Winchester, other than the difficulty of scope mounting.

    A scope doesn't really belong on a levergun, but my 50+year-old-tri-focused eyes need all the help they can get. :eek: :D
     
  7. db_tanker

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    I would fight for all my pistols and rifles...


    but I would fight just a bit harder for my Model 94 30 WCF. :)
     
  8. rantingredneck

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    For clarification, a Win 94AE (angle eject) is rather easy to mount a scope. They are drilled and tapped on top just like most other rifles. The brass ejects at an angle to clear the scope. I had one and traded it earlier this year. Comparing it to my Father in Law's Marlin 336, the Marlin is more accurate, while the Winchester handles better, is lighter, and holds one extra round (if that matters to you).

    If I had it to do over again I would buy a Marlin personally, but that is me. :)
     
  9. DJW

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    If you prefer to clean from the breech then get the Marlin. Have no idea why either one is not friendly to lefties, both work fine for me.
    DJW
     
  10. ArmedBear

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    Marlin is a more solid design, simpler to clean, etc. Scope? No problem.

    Marlin 336 (originally model 1893, changed to 36 then 336 with some updates) dates from the same time as the Winchester 94 (also changed a bit since 1894 but not renamed). Soul? Whatever. Both guns are "the originals".

    Winchester is lighter. Neat package, really. Carries and shoulders nicely. Definitely feels like a carbine.

    Marlin's perceived recoil is less, IMO. Different geometry, wider butt, and a tad heavier. More rifle-like, even in the same length as the Winchester.

    See if you can shoot each one, and decide what you prefer.:)
     
  11. hoghunting

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    To clean the Marlin, you remove the the lever screw and the lever and breech bolt pull out leaving access to the chamber. The Winchester has to be stripped to almost the bare receiver to have access to the chamber. It's much easier cleaning the Marlin.
     
  12. R.W.Dale

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    Or you could clean both from the muzzle end and save the screwdrivers for hanging pictures.
     
  13. 68'chevelle

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    That is the way I clean my marlin, I'd go with the marlin, I have 4 marlins, I like the 336w cause the 30/30 bullets are cheap, and I took 6 aimed shots in 30 seconds.:D


    336w 30/30,
    444, 336c 35,
    the classic model 1895 45/70
     
  14. Dr.Rob

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    And you COULD clean your bore with rainwater... but there are better ways to do things. :rolleyes:

    (Reminder if you DO clean from the bore use a brass or plastic cleaning guide rod to protect the muzzle crown.)

    My biggest bitch with Marlin is the crossbolt safety that isn't... but it's better than the 'squeeze the lever' safety on a Winchester.

    Soulless? I think not. They've both been around well over 100 years. And at least Marlin is still an American company.

    The Winchester IS lighter, and if you never need a scope, the Winny may be your cup of tea. Winchesters are NOT currently being made but there are a lot of them available.

    The Winchesters have a lot more side to side slop in the lever, compared to a Marlin.

    Thing is, a GOOD used 30-30 is hard to come by sometimes... people hang onto them until they are beat to snot.

    I prefer the Marlin, but it's really a six of one half dozen of the other argument.
     
  15. .45Guy

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    Ever try to shoot a 94 with an offset scope? My neck doesn't bend far enough to use it;)
     
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    the simple answer is of course that you really need both...
     
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    dont overlook used mossberg 30-30 levers, or revelation 30-30s, both made by mossberg. usually found rough, they are good shooters. most i see have 18.5 inch barrels. marlin scope mounts fit.
     
  18. retrieverman

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    Winchester or Marlin? You can't go wrong either way. I personally prefer Marlin, but that is just what I started with 25 years ago. I currently have 4 Marlin 336 30-30's, an 1895GS 45-70, an 1894SS 44 magnum, and a 39A 22lr.

    I have come full circle (from 30-30 to magnumitis and back), and 30-30 is once again my deer/hog caliber of choice.
     
  19. rangerruck

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    winchester was, is, allways will be so light, so handy, so easy to swing, so svelte, just a dream to carry around in the woods. the only reason I would not get one, is if top eject really bothered you, of so , then go marlin.
     
  20. marksman13

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    I like the Marlins. Just a matter of personal preferance. I grew up with a pair of Marlin 336s and the Winchester just never felt right. Don't forget about Henry lever actions. They are made in America as well. I don't know that they make a 30-30 model, but their 44 magnum Big Boy is a solid performer under 100 yards.
     
  21. Kaylee

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    Both have been around for over a hundred years now, so you're not exactly going to go wrong with either.

    I've owned both - gave away the Marlin. Not only couldn't I shoot it as well, I found felt recoil was substantially more than the Winchester, oddly enough.

    My personal preference then is an older straight stocked Winchester. But the only way to tell is for ya to try 'em both.
     
  22. AStone

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    My personal choice is Marlin.

    I own a 336A in .30-30 and a 39A in .22 LR.
    Won't part with either.
    Still breaking in both;
    soon to do some polishing on both
    to smooth the actions.

    Soon to add an 1894C in .357M.

    Soul?

    Go here for discussions about soul in Marlin .30-30s.

    ;)

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  23. Regolith

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    Personally, I love vintage Winchester 94's. They're one of those iconic guns that exude character.

    My father has a '94 in .30-30 and a '92 in .25-30, both built in the first half of the last century. Both are fun to shoot and simply feel good in my hands.

    That being said, I wouldn't mind owning a Marlin either. Not a huge fan of their stocks, but they're neat little guns. Personally I'm thinking about getting the guide gun in .45-70, and maybe one of their cowboy guns.
     
  24. AStone

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    Um hmm.
     
  25. JustsayMo

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    The two Winchesters I've had in my possession were both excellent shooters even with factory ammo. Reloads made them into GREAT shooters. I seem to shoot them a little better than the Marlins. Cleaning a Winchester is a big downside for me. Because it was a pain, I didn't shoot as much.

    The two 30-30 Marlins I've owned shoot nearly as good as the Winchesters. Both prefer handloads over factory ammo. They feel more solid and more refined. MUCH easier to maintain and keep running. Even my 1999 mfr date Marlin was still made in the USA!

    The Winchesters didn't stick around. I went with Marlin.
     
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