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Marlin 336 vs 1894c

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by 76shuvlinoff, Aug 25, 2008.

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  1. 76shuvlinoff

    76shuvlinoff Member

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    I am still hellbent on owning another Marlin lever gun (along with my 39A) and I again ask your patience while I post another question. As I waffle back and forth drooling over models I realize I need to get some input from the hands-on bunch. 336 or 1894c? why?

    Thanks
    Mark
     
  2. davera

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    You of course need both. 336's seem to be in better supply at gunshows and such so it's easy to pick one of those up. 1894C's are harder to find at the shows (but I did a few years back) and you have to be prepared to jump on them.
     
  3. Cosmoline

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    Never mind, I got my wires crossed.
     
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  4. yakkingallover

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    I say both even though I am lacking an 1894c myself...
     
  5. streakr

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    You need both for different reasons!!! Now y'all pay attention to the lecture here....

    The Marlin 1894/94 models are built for pistol cartridges, e.g. 357/38, 44, 45, 32, 32-20 and so on. 1894c is the carbine model.

    They are NOT based on the Browning designed Winchester of 1892 or 1894. Winny 92s are pistol cartridge/94s are rifle cartridge (although some 94s were made for 357, 44 and 45....avoid these). These are excellent rifles but of complex construction and top ejectors which interfere with scope mounts.

    The Marlin levers are as strong as Winnies but side eject and are easier to take down, clean and maintain. Properly tuned the 94 Marlin is WAY FASTER than a 92 Winchester. Cowboy action champs use either the Marlin or Uberti 1873.

    The 92 Winchester does have the advantage in 454 Casull but that's it!

    The 336 line began with the 1893 Marlin, a square bolt, side ejecting lever in rifle calibers. later came versions 1936 and my favorite the 36, also square bolt. The 93's were redesigned in the late 1930's with the round bolt as the Model 336. That's what you buy today, a modern design from the 1930s!!

    The 1895 Marlin later was made to cover 45-70.

    I now own 7 Marlins and have owned as many as 15. 1x1889 in 32-20, 2x94 in 357 (1 carbine, 1 Cowboy), 1x94 in 44mag, 1x45LC, 1x36 in 32-40, 2x336 (30-30 and 38-55) and 1x95 in 45-70. They are the best lever rifles ever made.

    Now for the quiz.....

    streakr
     
  6. Sistema1927

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    Pssst, I wouldn't want to embarrass you by saying this out loud, but the 1894C is a Marlin, not the abomination that you think that it is.

    OK, everyone else can listen now.

    The OP needs both a 336 and an 1894C to go along with his 39A. Don't waffle, you really do need both.
     
  7. 76shuvlinoff

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    Oh you guys are biiiig help. I am however detecting a pattern here. ;)
     
  8. benzy2

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    I love my 336. I can't believe how well it shoots. I've been getting 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I know it seems wrong to do but I put a 4x scope on it and boy does it make the perfect brush gun. Its easy to carry, accurate out as far as the round is capable, and a ton of fun to shoot. Im sure a 1894c would be just as fun though. The 336 is one of my favorite guns to play with.
     
  9. SSN Vet

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    Pick your catrdrige Grasshopper and the path will become clear to you :neener:
     
  10. charles.emond

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    would you consider choosing the 1894 Cowboy in your favorite caliber instead of a 336 or 1894C? :D
     
  11. MAKster

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    If you plan on hunting with it buy the 30-30. If you are just going to punch paper by the 357 mag. The Marlin 1894c is very hard to find and more expensive. Marlin only makes them in small batches so you might have to wait a long time until they make more. The 336 is in constant production so it is very easy to find in stores.
     
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    I don't see why you need both if you are not going to hunt anything deer sized or shoot at 100 yds or over. If you are get the 336 for that, but still get the 1894c because it is more fun and cheaper to shoot with .38 spcl.
     
  13. Titus

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    Get the 1894c for now and then go to the 1895 later!
     
  14. Z_Infidel

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    It all depends on what you want to use the gun for. If you want to hunt big game, get the 336. If you want a fun carbine that shoots relatively inexpensive ammo get the 1894C.

    1894C:
    Small game, and deer-size game within its effective range (75-100 yds IMO)
    Relatively cheap to shoot
    Good to have around a farm or other rural property for varmints, plinking, etc...
    Makes a fine defensive carbine
    Lots of fun

    336:
    Plenty of power for big game, again within its effective range (LeverEvolution ammo extends the range a bit)
    Lots of them available both new and used
    Reasonably priced ammo
    Works as a defensive arm in the right environment
    Lots of fun, although not exactly a plinking gun

    Figure out your priorities and choose accordingly.
     
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    I vote for the 1894c. I have a 1894SS .44mag and love it and am looking for a 1894 in .357mag.

    IMHO If you already have the caliber ammo in hand gun it's a no brainer.

    they made a limited edition 1894c Stainless but it eludes me like a leprechaun. I'd love to get one to partner with my S&W 686
     
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    For hunting in the deer woods, the 30-30 336 is hard to beat.
     
  17. 76shuvlinoff

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    I think the last few posts sum up the situation, I'm not a hunter except for the eradication of varmints, I do love shooting and I recently decided I wanted more bite than my 39A, I've been lurking in the 336 and 1894 "clubs" for quite a while and it simply must be a lever Marlin for me.
    That price jump from 336 to 1894 means I have to delay the purchase a bit, I just want to make sure it's on an equal plane quality-wise with the venerable 336 30-30 and worth the wait.

    as always,
    thanks!
    Mark
     
  18. jhansman

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    Well, I've had 'em both, and the only one I regret selling was my 1894 Cowboy. The 336 was never fun to shoot. 'Nuff said.
     
  19. goon

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    IIRC, in the other thread we sort of thought that your situation would be best served with a 1894.

    I still lean heavily toward the 336. They're still cheap enough that you could have one and a bolt action .22 magnum for any kind of "varmint" use.
    And they're much more available.

    A 336 in 30-30 is my general purpose rifle.
    I take either it or my NEF 20 gauge with me when I go any significant distance into the woods.
     
  20. Sun195

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    1894C: because you'll need to get a .357 revolver to go along with it. It's a gateway gun...

    I own both, but shoot my 1894C a lot more because ammo is cheap, I can shoot it on the pistol range, and it's just plain fun to shoot. Also, easy for new shooters if you ever drag them to the range.

    You do need to get a 336 (or any good 30-30) at some point. It's one of those guns that everyone should have in their collection along with a 1911, 4" .357 revolver, .22lr rifle, 12ga shotgun, etc...
     
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    That is the one good thing about reloading. I can load up a .30-30 with blue dot and be within a few cents a round as I can if I load .357/38 special and I get about the same recoil as well. The .30-30 becomes a lot more fun at the range when you load it down. If you don't reload though ammo costs make the price difference between the two rifles shrink with much use. Even cheap .30-30 is $0.70 per shot while you can get .38 special under $0.30 a shot. After 1000 rounds the difference in the price of ammo offsets any difference in the price of the rifles.
     
  22. ronto

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    The 1894 is subject to the dreaded "Marlin Jam" disease...The 336 is immune.
     
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    I don't see anybody mention that the 336 costs about half as much as an 1894, all other pro's and con's aside. though my 1894's get out a lot more than my 336.
     
  24. ArmedBear

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    Don't insult the Marlins.:)

    I have an 1894C. It's a really accurate target gun or plinker with .38 Special, and can be loaded really hot with .357 hunting loads.

    One day, I might get a 336, but mainly for hunting if I hunt in the right conditions, not as a fun gun. As greyling22 says.
     
  25. streakr

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    The "dreaded" Marlin jam happens mainly to cowboy shooters who cycle the action very fast for thousands of rounds. This is actually known as "feed two" error and is easily solved by replacing the carrier. Sometimes Marlin will supply the part; they now make a better carrier that avoids this problem.

    Look at this website for the definitive answer to this problem:
    http://marauder.homestead.com/Rifles.html

    The round bolt 336 has the same carrier/lever combo as the 94 and could develop a similar problem but the rifle cartridge 336 is rarely cycled that quickly plus the long cartridge length reduces that risk of "feeding two".

    I have 2x336 (30-30 and 38-55) plus an 1895 in 45-70.

    s
     
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