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Mauser Broomhandle

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Ro1911, Feb 22, 2011.

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  1. Ro1911

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    I'm about to buy a 1930's commercial Mauser and I have some questions,
    first is $700 a fare price on a gun thats in like 70% condition. Second has any one had lugerman.com refinish there Mauser, if so how did it turn out? And third would refinishing a gun that has no finish left help or hurt the value (this is a shooter not really a collector piece in my opinion, the barrel and all internal parts look good but the outside has seen better days but it isn't pitted)?
     
  2. Quiet

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    Refinishing any C&R firearm will make it worth less as a collector's piece.

    However, if you obtained it to use as a shooter and not a collector's peice, refinish away.

    Couple of years ago, when I was looking at picking up a Mauser C96, a refinished shooter quality Mauser C96 were selling for around $600.
     
  3. Ro1911

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    That was kind of what I thought with the condition it's in its really only a shooter any way I kind of figured given the choice between a good looking shooter or a poor looking one it's a no brainer

    Oh and do you have to sbr it to put a repo stock on it? I haven't heard a firm answer either way on any of the sites I looked on, thanks.
     
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    My next door neighbor has a broom handle Mauser with the shoulder stock that doubles as a case for the gun. He inherited it from his father when he died. I've never seen him shoot it. I asked him why he doesn't bring it out to the range and he said that he can't afford the ammo. He found some ammo at Fiocchi but never bought any of it. I don't know if it is outragiously priced or not, but he sure thinks it is. Just an observation...
     
  5. Ro1911

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    Fiochhi is 34.95 a box
    Prvi partisan is 14.95 a box

    But those are at my local store I dont know about any where else.

    I didn't think it was extremely over priced, its about the same as 9mm.
     
  6. DammitBoy

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    might be a good idea to replace the springs - if you know how to take it down

    that price seems fair if it shoots
     
  7. Ro1911

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    Do you mean the follower springs or the recoil spring or the main spring or the firing pin spring? Or all of the above?
     
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    all of the above
     
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    Authentic shoulder stock/holster = non-SBR
    Reproduction of authentic shoulder stock/holster = gray (contact BATFE NFA branch for clarification)
    non-authentic shoulder stock = SBR

     
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    I guess if its a shooter you can refinish, but I'm one of those guys who cringes at the word refinish.

    One thing you may want to consider:
    Value will be severly decreased as soon as you touch it with steel wool/sand paper.
    If you ever try to sell it, I wouldn't expect to get anywhere close to what you paid for it/what its worth after you refinish.

    Blue Book has probably 30 variations of this gun documented. Assuming the one your looking at isn't anything out of the ordinary, $700 is a decent price for 70% condition.
     
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    Well that answers my question about whether or not he's tight with his money...although the $34.95/50 is in the upper end of the range I would be willing to shoot on a regular basis.
     
  12. Ro1911

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    Who would you contact at the batfe to ask that question?

    Do they have a hot line?(ha)
     
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    BATFE NFA Branch
    244 Needy Road
    Martinsburg, West Virginia 25405 USA
    Voice (304) 616-4500
    Fax (304) 616-4501


    IMO...
    Write them a letter, asking what you want clarified.
    That way they mail you back a response and you have physicaly proof of what is or is not legal so you can show to any LEO that questions it.
    If you call them, you might just get a desk jockey that doesn't know as much as the technicians and get an answer which they think is right.
     
  14. Ro1911

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    Thanks I think I'll look up a local office to write
     
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    Oh, and be VERY careful, 7,63 Mauser and 7.62 Tokarev DO not mix, the Tokarev is a much higher pressure round, that will chamber, and will fire, and will destroy the gun if not you.
     
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    I had a broomhandle mauser a few years ago, it was a fun gun to shoot. The 30 mauser round is pleasant to shoot.

    disassembly is pretty easy.
    1. Check that gun is unloaded
    2. Hold the bolt back, and depress the magazine follower.
    3. ease the bolt closed
    4. depress the button on the magazine base plate and slide the base approx. 1/2 inch to free it from the frame.
    5. remove the base plate, magazine spring, & follower from the frame.
    6. cock the hammer. Under the hammer is a latch just above the grip.
    7. Pull the hammer down and lift the latch. the top of the gun will now slide rearward off the frame. watch for the safety lever as it may fall out.
    8. The action is held to the bolt by a spring and can be unsnapped off the bolt.
    9. to remove the bolt and firing pin from the top end, use a small screwdriver and depress the firing pin at the back of the bolt and rotate it untill it pops out.
    10. remove the firing pin, and then the spring block. the bolt can now be removed.

    reassembly:

    1. insert the bolt into the top end, and put the spring in the bolt.
    2. This part is a bit tricky: use a flathead screwdriver and compress the firing pin spring so you can start to insert the spring block. the spring has to be in front of the block or the block will not fit.
    3. once block is in place, insert the firing pin, and used a screwdriver to depress it and rotate it to lock in place.
    4. resnap the action to the bolt.
    5. line up the top end with the frame and slide them together. they won't fit all the way.
    6. Put the safety lever on the action.
    7. Now the trick: pull down on the hammer and the action will slide into the frame.
    8. Reinsert the magazine follower, spring and base plate. Slide the plate while depressing the plate retaining button.
    6.
     
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    "Oh, and be VERY careful, 7,63 Mauser and 7.62 Tokarev DO not mix, the Tokarev is a much higher pressure round, that will chamber, and will fire, and will destroy the gun if not you."

    That's a wee bit of an exaggeration. Some European Mauser ammo was loaded quite hot and there is great variation in loadings between various flavors of Tokarev ammo. Any Mauser pistol that has been determined to be safe for 7.63 Mauser ammo will not suddenly detonate with the first round of 7.62 Tokarev ammo it fires, but it will wear at a faster rate if the Tokarev ammo is very hot and the pistol is not maintained well.
     
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    If you can solve rubics cube, disassembly of the broomhandle will be childs play... :uhoh:
     
  19. Ro1911

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    Does anyone know where to find accessories and parts for the broomhandle?
     
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    I have to agree on the Rubics Cube idea. They sure are a interesting set up to take the action apart.
     
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    The Broomhandle is actually a relatively simple pistol to completely disassemble by modern standards. More like a child's Chinese puzzle than a Rubrik's Cube. I got to be an expert at it when I had mine. Just be sure the rocker coupling (the C-shaped piece) is replaced with the open side facing forward. I had mine refinished and sold it for far more than I paid for it. Outside the realm of serious collectors, a handsome shooter is worth more than a worn-looking shooter. Parts frequently turn up on Ebay but don't necessarily sell cheap. Some parts, like the sear spring/hammer pivot, are hard to find in good condition. I learned so much about Broomhandles trying to coax mine into a reliable one that I know I will never own one again unless I can shoot it before I buy it.
     
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    Oh, and make sure the bolt stop is sound before you shoot the pistol. I've seen a bunch of cracked and thinned ones and I've had one shear with the resultant flying bolt. That got my attention! Fortunately, I was not holding the gun in front of my face when that happened.
     
  23. Ro1911

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    Who did you have refinish yours?
     
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    It was a place in Florida that advertised in Gun List. It's been 7 or 8 years so I don't recall the name of the outfit. They did a nice job on the refinish but they also installed the crappy bolt stop that sheared. When I talked to them about it they acted like they'd never heard of such a thing. So, high marks for refinishing but I'd never trust them to do any kind of smithing or fitting.
     
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    They didn't do the work on my old Broomie but Mentor Arms in Ohio has a reputation as knowledgeable and competent C96 smiths/refinishers.
     
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