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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by sasnofear, May 28, 2003.

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  1. sasnofear

    sasnofear member

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    looking for an accurate mauser like the 98K in 6.5x55, needs to have a bent bolt, not! the 90 degry bolt! I hear the swedish mausers are meant to be most accurate however all the sweadish ones i have seen have 90degry bolts.

    any advice on make/model?


    thanks

    adam
     
  2. cratz2

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    Are you wanting a period correct piece just with the bent bolt or more of a modern Mauser-based rifle?
     
  3. T.Stahl

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    Not all Swedish Mausers have straight bolt handles:

    - the M94 carbine has a bent one.
    - the M96 rifle has a straight one.
    - M38 carbines that were converted from M96 rifles have straight ones.
    - newly produced M38 carbines have bent ones.
    - and of course the scoped M41 sniper rifles have bent bolt handles (because of the scope).

    Your choice!
     
  4. Cosmoline

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    Don't knock the 90 degree!

    Most of us simply don't know how to use it correctly. I saw a great article in a recent Shotgun News about the proper method for working a straight-bolt Swede. Once you get it down, the rate of fire is very impressive. Far greater than what you could do working a bent bolt.

    The key lies in bringing your hand up with the palm flat and the fingers straight out. You then knock the bolt back, and on the return stroke you catch it with your thumb. When the cycle is complete, your index finger is right by the trigger. Works like a charm with the 6.5's. Slick as snot.

    This system does not work as well with the bigger 8x57 Mausers. The higher pressures require most of us to use our palms and some leverage to cycle the bolt, greatly increasing the cycle time.
     
  5. Ivanimal

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    The accuracy I get from my 8mm (Mitchels) Mauser is better than many modern firearms. I like the extra knockdown power.
     
  6. Feanaro

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    Why do you want a turned down bolt? I personally thought the one Swede I handled(But did not buy because of the horrible condition. Someone had taken a torch to the trigger guard, welded the sights on and made various other horrible, nasty "improvements") was very fast and smooth. I like the look of a bent handle but the straight seems much faster and easier.

    If you want a turned down, look for the models someone previously listed. But I would just buy a regular Swede.
     
  7. Greg L

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    He probably wants the bent bolt so that he can put a scope on the top. A straight bolt won't work as the scope would be in the way.

    I think that you can get aftermarket turned downs for a Swede to replace the straight bolt.

    Greg
     
  8. JPM63US

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    M48

    I think he wants an M48 or M48A. Nice gun for little $$, bent bolt with scope mounts avaiable and accurate enough to be a "sniper" weapon during the Serbian mess.

    Do you have a C & R?
     
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    Ain't a gonna find no M48/48A in 6.5mm. I always thought the 90 degree bolt was a stupid idea until I got my M44. Now most of my rifles have the straight bolt. I prefer the scout mount scopes too, so all is well. So how about a Swede with a good scout mount, then you've got the accuracy you want and a scope.
     
  10. sasnofear

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    gr8. thanks 4 the fast replys guys. i think i am gonna go with the swede carbine. v.accurate, bent bolt flat shooting to 200yrds for deer. perfect. as well as being a beutiful rifle.

    but whats the difference between it and the german K98 as that was going 2 be my original choice. so im still unsure whether 2 go 4 swede carbine or K98.

    thanks
     
  11. bobs1066

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    Dang all your onery hides anyhow!

    I've been thinking about getting a Swede & after all this talk, I went out at lunch & picked up an 1899 Carl G M96.

    This milsurp rifle thing is getting to be a habit. :D
     
  12. Feanaro

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    Not sure about the Swede carbine but the most popular Swedes are longer, have a 90 degree bolt, the front sights are adjusted from font to back(other way around for other Mausers) and the mag floor has an annoying habit of catching the bolt if there are no bullets in it. The M96 is more like the original German Mauser, never seen the carbine version. I'm not sure of the technical differences.
     
  13. Clemson

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    The Swede is not a model 98

    The K98 is a model 98 Mauser, but the Swedes are either Model 94's or 96's. That means that they cock on closing the bolt rather than on opening it, and they lack some of the safety features of the Model 98's. The Swedes are very well-made, however, and the cartridge is easy to shoot. The K98 was made primarily in 8mm. It is a bit more powerful than the 6.5 mm, but it kicks in proportion to its power.
     
  14. cracked butt

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    Why the bent bolt? I actually prefer the straight bolt- it works really well for me. The bolts on most military rifles aren't bent correctly for scope mounting if that is what you are thinking unless you mount the scope high or rebend the bolt.

    There are some swedish rifles out there with bent bolts- I think Husqavarna carbines might have bent bolts, but I'm not sure and they are pretty pricey.

    Last time I checked samcoglobal.com had m96's with bent bolts and possibly husky m38's also.

    A german K98 has a large ring receiver, and a swedish m96 m94 or m38 has a small ring receiver.
     
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